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Retired Navy Seal Terry Houin joins Eli, @the_fat_electrician & @habitual_linecrosser to share some crazy military stories!
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Chapters
00:00:00 - VEGAS LIVE SHOW!
00:02:11 - Podcast Episode Kickoff
00:04:50 - Joining the Navy: Initial Thoughts
00:07:41 - Transitioning to Navy SEAL Training
00:13:59 - Differences in Training Standards
00:15:40 - Comparison of Training Generations
00:21:30 - Personal Stories of Resilience
00:24:11 - Mental Toughness in Military Training
00:28:38 - Humor in Military Experiences
00:30:45 - Joining SEAL Team 4
00:32:54 - Transitioning to Development Group
00:36:21 - Challenges of Deployment
00:39:11 - Understanding Military Culture
00:43:00 - Advancements in Weaponry
00:45:04 - Free Fall Experience
00:47:02 - Advancements in Weapon Systems
00:49:15 - Testing New Weapon Systems
00:56:10 - Hostage Rescue Missions
01:00:05 - Skydiving Experience Overview
01:01:42 - Nighttime Water Jump Challenges
01:06:10 - Negotiating with Pirates
01:10:12 - Rescue Operation Details
01:12:02 - Training for High-Stakes Situations
01:14:10 - Reflections on the Mission
01:16:02 - Psychological Insights from War
01:20:41 - The Bat Bomb: A WWII Experiment
01:24:59 - Operation Pigeon: Weaponizing Birds
01:28:40 - Nuclear Landmines and Chickens
01:31:11 - Davy Crockett Nuclear Weapon
01:33:24 - Cold War Air Defense Missiles
01:38:24 - Nuclear Manhole Cover Incident
01:44:00 - UFO Sightings Near Nuclear Sites
01:45:47 - Hypersonic Glide Vehicles Explained
01:47:20 - Guam's Air Defense Systems
01:49:15 - Aegis Air Defense System Overview
01:51:10 - Missile Defense Successes
01:54:10 - Ender's Game and Military Ethics
01:56:50 - Guam's Capture Story
02:00:11 - Guam's Unexpected Leadership
02:02:19 - Military Commanders Arrive
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00:00:00
I'm driving the boat, sir.
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Hold on, cow.
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You are the captain now.
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The wind was 45 miles per hour in a tsunami.
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Appeal both ways.
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How do your balls fit in your pants, sir?
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I'm **** out.
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I want nothing to do with this.
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We **** up.
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Hey guys, before this amazing episode starts, we have one quick update, one quick one.
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You might have missed it from last week, but to start this year off strong, we're doing one last live show to end our tour.
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Where are that?
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Vegas baby, make one of them details.
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We're going to be hosting unsub live at the Venetian Theater on January 20th in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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I'm going to be **** hammered.
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It's going to be great.
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If you want to join me, there's going to be links down below.
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We can go buy tickets right now.
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God, he's beautiful.
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Though no, dude, we're doing one last show.
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That's right.
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Come out, have fun, have some drinks, and come hang out with so many freaking people.
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There is so many content creators that are going to be there.
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It is going to be a blast, lots of laughs, and we can't wait to meet all of y'all.
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Thank y'all so freaking much for how big these live shows have gotten.
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In one year, y'all made it possible to sell out a 1,200 seat venue.
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Being in front of y'all, hearing the cheering the laughter, the stomping is one of the greatest experiences any of us have had.
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So thank you so much.
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Now back to an awesome episode.
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We're going to figure out why Eli always has me on podcasts with **** Pipe hitters.
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We're tired.
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We're tired.
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I don't let it because I love it.
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It is my holy shit.
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We have dope ass stories, some pipe layers, maybe.
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And especially after yesterday.
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Oh, fuck.
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We'll start it off right.
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Ready?
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Oh, here we go.
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Get that, put it by the mic.
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Oh, again, three, two, one.
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It sounds like freedom.
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Mm.
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Mm.
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Mm.
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Oh, my God, not your thing.
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I just turned into that my uggs popping.
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Hopefully we got their tangerine pumpkin spice.
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Yeah, it's like it's like you're drinking TV static while someone yells about a tangerine.
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That's what I had to bourbon behind this one girl shit.
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Oh, make sure to fuck Cody's not here.
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I know.
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Hi, everyone.
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Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast.
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I'm joined here today by my co-host, Mr.
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Eli double tap, our new friend Terry and Ethan Mr.
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habitual line crosser, and I am Nick obviously the fat electrician.
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You look gorgeous.
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We're on podcast number two for a range day.
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We're just bass five in these bitches.
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It's fine.
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We left a bar of 300 people.
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We tried it.
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Literally, we did one round to the bathroom and left.
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And it took in that time, I managed to drink a beer.
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So I didn't even get to the bathroom.
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It was like, I'm not making it.
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I just send it.
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Yeah, you guys did the right thing.
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I just like, you know, he's chilled.
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We're gonna stay here and drink.
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So I can stay here and drink bourbon or I can go hang out with a whole bunch of 300 people in a fucking room now.
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That's your nightmare.
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I'll do this.
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Terry, dude, everyone knows the bitch.
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Well, everyone knows I like this.
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Everyone knows me.
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He says, Terry.
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Yes.
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Nobody knows me, which is nice.
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Oh, this is bad moments.
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Dude, you're, again, as he was saying.
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It's like, why are you putting on like Tyler?
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You're a son of it's all these life, like the first and like tier one individuals and you guys are so fucking humble about it, which is my favorite part.
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But then also some of the funnest humans I've ever met.
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We don't really give a fuck anymore.
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So it's fun to hang out.
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I'm so stoked for this.
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My rule of life is like, I've got limited numbers of fox.
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So I spend them wisely.
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Tell what your, yeah, so background grew up in Indiana.
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And spent where?
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Up by Southland, a little town called Plymouth.
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So grew up swimming.
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That's what led me to the Navy, advice the army or anything else.
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I thought I could be like a scuba diver, something cool.
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And then they tricked me into signing up for this jumping out of airplanes and blowing shit up and no idea what buds are gonna have to do with this.
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What year is this?
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This is, so I signed up in '91 and joined in January '92.
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Yeah.
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So like pre-algo or?
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I was seven.
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I don't know.
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I mean, wasn't a fucking thing yet.
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WW and all that stuff, yeah.
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They didn't exist yet.
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You might have.
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I was one.
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I was one.
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I was -3.
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I didn't know you.
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I was seven.
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I didn't know.
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Yes.
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No, I just like that.
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That's all right.
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I got Kevin.
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Kevin's my peer group.
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No, but I mean, so was it like, cause I mean, everybody always forgets because like everybody knows Navy Seals and Tier 1 and military is so much popular now.
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But like when you were a kid and you were like, kind of joined the military, nobody knew what the fucking Navy SEAL was or what an Army Ranger was or any of that.
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So like, how did you get to the point where you're like, yeah, I'll do that.
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Did you even know what you were signing up for?
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No, it's work.
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Cause I went in.
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I was telling, I think Mitch last night was like, I went in to learn how to scoop it out.
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I've got a group of swimming.
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I wanted to be the water.
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I was thankfully mature enough to know that college was not in my near future.
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Get it for you.
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To be worthwhile.
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So I'm like, hey, stay here and do nothing and hang out with the college or high school girls or join a Navy.
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I went in and talked to him and he's like, yeah, what do you like to do hunting fish and chew guns and stuff?
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And he's like, yeah, there's a poster like, look at that thing.
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He's like skydiving like, never been skydiving fucking 18 or whatever it was.
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What about blowing shit?
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I'm like, sign me up.
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What is it?
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So he's like, oh, SEALs.
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Here's the thing.
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I can't sign a contract.
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No clue what buzz.
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He didn't tell me.
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He was in the brochure and like, yeah, get a little pamphlet like 64 weeks or whatever it was, no idea like attrition rate or getting your ass beat,
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which is good because growing up in that farming computer, I knew I had a work hard.
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So when I got to California, it was like, hey, just go do this.
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Go do this.
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And by the time I realized how much it sucked, like halfway through, I'm like, oh, okay, cool.
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Let's do the shit.
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Yeah.
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We're strong and dumb.
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Yeah.
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Look at this vacation.
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You're sending me on.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to be screwed but don't.
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Yeah.
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It's in California.
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Yeah.
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She's.
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It's awesome.
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I was born in California and I moved out to Iowa when I was like 11 months.
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Why did you do that?
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Huh?
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It's like reverse of vehicle.
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No, it's way better.
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Iowa is so important.
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Yeah.
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These guys want you to fuck.
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Yeah.
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But like, the thing you move out to the Midwest coming from California and you run into these farm kids that just go out there and wrestle, it's like you guys aren't geared like everybody else.
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You know what?
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Fucking God.
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Jesus Christ.
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Those farmboys are terrible.
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12 year old kids that are tougher than most of the men in California.
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It's insane.
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Yeah.
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They could've locked out of the field.
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Yeah.
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I would like just two weeks.
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I would like to move in square bales.
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Fuck that.
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They're built different.
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No.
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Sorry.
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Shootie.
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The only dude in ground combat us, whatever they call it and like I did BJJ up to that time.
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So those were a few kids when they put me in whatever level one was.
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I tapped out the structure.
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I'm a structure.
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Like what the fuck?
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I was like, don't I have been fighting since I was 10 years old.
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Shootie was the only motherfucker I watched in his structure like go to pull an arm guy and shoot goes 280 pounds of just nothing but muscle and all he did was live on a farm in his entire life.
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Yeah.
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You're like, Jesus fucking Christ dude.
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So like how halfway through you realized it sucked at which point did you realize like because I'm assuming you got shipped off the basic and you didn't even realize that you were doing something that was like elite or above average hardness.
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Oh no.
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Yeah.
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You're like, I went in January 92 for boot camp and go to boot camp.
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It's like one or two other guys are in a diet fair program or their EOD program, whatever it is.
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So we're going to go do our workouts with the little seals that are on base, you'll run and do push ups and that kind of stuff, but it's kind of a little break from your boot camps off.
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Yeah, but you just don't really know what you're signed up for.
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Go to a school, same kind of thing and work out with a couple guys that are in the program.
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Then you show up to California, you're like, oh fuck, what's this?
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This is cool.
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Yeah, then my time of the water starts getting really cold and the sand starts really rubbing your vagina quite a bit.
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You're like, fuck.
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But then you're like halfway through and you already made friends at this point.
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So you don't want to quit and let your friends down.
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And it's kind of fun.
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It's really, it's hard, but it's easy and the fact that I'm sorry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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It turns it up.
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Yeah.
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It's like simple, but not easy, because it's like every single day like, hey, we're going to do this today.
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You're going to run four miles.
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We're going to feed you at this time, like you didn't have to think until you got through hell week, which at the end of the day, it's kind of fun when it sucks really bad.
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And then you get afterwards, you're like, oh, it's kind of cool.
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Yeah.
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Then you start learning stuff.
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Like, okay, we got got you to the point where we know you're not going to give up when things get hard.
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Now, you start teaching now, like, teach how to scuba dive, teach how to, you know, the re-breather, the, the draggers, and then teach how to shoot guns, like, yeah, it just starts to get fun at that point.
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So is there any, like, was there a particular moment where you're like, maybe the recruiter fucked me up.
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He didn't really give me the information.
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I should have live.
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Oh, yeah.
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When you show it first show up there and you walk and you check in, like, see man, fucking who you're checking in for buds, and you look out in a grinder because you checked out the quarterback back then,
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and you see this dude just getting worked and like, what, who are these guys?
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And like, that's the class in front of you.
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And you see how much lined up, like, what happened to those guys?
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Like, they quit.
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Like, what happens then?
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Like, you don't want to know.
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Like, oh, fuck yeah.
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Okay.
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I guess I'm not quitting because this big strong dude, so I don't want to know.
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19 at this point.
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Yeah.
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I think it turned 19 in buds.
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Yeah.
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Turn 19 in buds or something like that.
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Cause it's time there's no internet or 19 in a score or something in 20 buds, but yeah, still baby.
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That's what I was going to say.
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Cause like, I grew up my whole life.
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Like, I remember when I was in like middle school watching, like, making the cut on buds and shit.
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So like, I've known what this is my whole life of like, known others.
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So I can't imagine walking into that situation, like, not having seen a YouTube video about it or just like, oh, yeah, there's, yeah, books.
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There's no nothing.
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Yeah.
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I think the Charlie Sheen movie had come out prior to that, but we watched him in a blue campus, like the first time I saw it, like, oh, fuck, this is why I signed up for it.
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Hell yeah.
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This isn't shoot through walls with 50s and stuff.
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Like, you think it's all the fun stuff when I joined basic, I remember going to maps, signing in, like swearing in and all that and they're like, okay, you're going to basic training again.
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Infantry.
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You don't have a choice.
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You're going to bidding.
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Don't know that.
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The internet's just now becoming a thing.
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So it was like, like, okay, you're going to basic training before bidding.
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I was like, oh, no, do you have like Jackson or like, I thought infantry could pick a nicer score.
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Yeah.
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That's not it.
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I want to go somewhere.
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Fun.
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I was like, oh, yeah, I knew that shipped out.
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Here we go.
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But it's funny because like, I didn't know shit.
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Like, there was no information out there.
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There was no Reddit.
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Like, come for a circle.
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My last job was running our pre-buds by point up in Chicago.
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The guys, kids who come from boot camp, come over and they would be in my house for eight weeks to learn how to get back in shape and learn mentally and physically kind of get ready for it.
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Like, there's so much bad information out there on, like, what year is this?
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Sorry.
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So that was, I went up there in 2015.
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So my last three years, 2015 and 2018, I was up there running that school.
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But there's so much bad information they get there and they start cheating right away.
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And they're still the Navy and like, I mean, how do you cheat?
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Well, there's no reason to cheat in pre-buds.
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It's like super simple.
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Right.
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Anyway, they would like check the corners.
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They had to drop like the worst week I've ever had up there.
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I dropped 44 kids in one class because they were, that forging their Navy, PQS, like I clean, I know how to clean my room and to clean the barracks so I can go on leave or liberty for the afternoon.
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Like, they can't go on liberty anyways.
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It doesn't fucking matter why you're cheating to, they got busted and the mass chief of the base called me.
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So I got to call the mass chief of work on like my senior E9 that I work for, like, hey, my chief, this is what's going on.
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He's like, well, what do you want to do, my club?
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And now they're not even in NSW yet.
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Right.
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They haven't gone to Buds yet.
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They're still in the Navy.
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Like, if we were preaching character and integrity, in my right mind, I can't let these guys go.
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Like, it's just not the right thing to do, especially at this level.
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Like, they've been in the Navy for like four weeks or whatever.
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Like, if we're letting them go with integrity, like basic integrity shift from here, it's like, we can't do it.
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Like, fucking miserable, like signing, like kicking 44 kids out of this class.
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I'm like one by one.
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I've got to have like, how many were in the class?
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Like, typical class would start about 200 or so.
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Okay.
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That's the seals or the seal candidates, the SWIT candidates, we would have a handful of fleet attorneys that are going to win or maybe a couple of transfer like marine guys that are going to go to Buds.
00:13:04
So every listed guy that went to Buds, at that point, came through that, that schoolhouse.
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So they're roughly 200 or so.
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So typically, we only lose like eight to 10 max on like a big class for the pre for pre buds.
00:13:18
Yeah.
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I mean, the attrition rate for Buds is, I don't think it's changed, like 1% maybe.
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So I guess still 80% of the kids aren't making it through.
00:13:25
When you went through versus when you were an instructor, were the class sizes different over there?
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Yeah, smaller.
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I think I think we started my first phase of 120-ish somewhere in that ballpark and we graduated 22 or 21, 22 and 14 of those were the original class that didn't get rolled back.
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So now they're starting like 180 to 200, I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers.
00:13:51
When you were rolling those out, what is that like, we'll go back to like, we would love your entire thing because that's what we'll go back to.
00:13:58
But with you see it now, we're like, what you went through and how you're a trade versus, oh, this is how it's handled now.
00:14:03
Do you see a big shift from when you got out?
00:14:06
Or is it the same standard?
00:14:08
It's the same standard.
00:14:09
I mean, and it's funny because when you go through, like how we, it's f***ing chaos the whole time.
00:14:14
When you're going through, like, oh my god, what the f***, like shit's going everywhere.
00:14:17
When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer, like it is scripted to the f***ing second.
00:14:24
Like, okay, we're going to have the guys in the water at this time, it's 52 degrees, the wind is this, they can wind be in the water for 68 seconds, like down to the second.
00:14:32
I don't know, sure.
00:14:33
As a student going through and you don't know this, like, yeah.
00:14:35
They can't kill me.
00:14:36
Yeah.
00:14:37
Well.
00:14:38
Turns out it turns out a kiss.
00:14:39
But, uh, anyway.
00:14:40
Wasn't there a kid who, like, recently a couple years ago, like, had a heart attack or something?
00:14:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:47
But, I mean, for that, there's a whole lot of other shit.
00:14:50
I'm sure you hear that joke still went over your head.
00:14:53
But, no, for that one, it was that kid had been taken, stuff they wish it had been taken and it was a whole lot of other stuff that was self-induced.
00:15:03
Anyway, maybe try to pin on some guys, but, yeah, anyway, it's a big story that I don't get in details.
00:15:09
I don't really know all the details too much.
00:15:11
Um, going, sorry, going from, like, uh, pre, I'll say pre-internet seal to being an instructor post-internet and being popular was, do you think that,
00:15:22
uh, access to information is, like, hurting or helping the new recruits coming through?
00:15:27
Like, do you think you, you had it better off not knowing anything about what you were getting into?
00:15:32
Or do you think they have a better off kind of knowing what they're getting into it?
00:15:35
I would say, yes or no.
00:15:36
And, and this is how I'd say is like, yes, I had a better off because I had no clue I was getting into and I just sucked it up and did it.
00:15:44
Now the kids, like, the access to information, like, physically and mentally, these guys are fucking way out of my, like, I wouldn't even probably classify for a, for a contract now.
00:15:54
Like, we're getting our average kid coming in at the time was 22, 23, 60 to 70% of them already had a four-year degree, they understood nutrition, they understood how to work out,
00:16:05
like, in the 90s, we're just breaking dudes because like, how the fuck was this run faster if we got to run faster or run farther?
00:16:10
That was when it was like drinking water and like, that's her.
00:16:13
Yeah.
00:16:14
I know.
00:16:15
I was like, oh, that kills people.
00:16:16
Yeah.
00:16:17
You show up the team for, like, fuck, we're in a party till 4 a.m.
00:16:19
and then get up and run for eight miles or whatever.
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It's like, not smart from how, like, longevity standpoint.
00:16:25
So, I think today's candidates across the military are much smarter, much more capable than we were.
00:16:33
Age of information.
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It really does.
00:16:35
Oh, yeah, I mean, it's just, I mean, what we've learned from, like, 9/11, just on longevity of the operator side of it is, I mean, fuck, I love that, like, a dietician and physical therapy,
00:16:47
like, we got it later on, but by that point, I'm already broken.
00:16:49
Oh, yeah.
00:16:50
It's like, you know, rewind 20 years and get that shit when I'm 21, like, hey, we're going to teach how to eat and why macronutrient, like, all these different pieces are important in mitochondria.
00:16:59
Like, all this crap is important.
00:17:01
I'd been awesome actually building, like, a warrior.
00:17:05
Absolutely.
00:17:06
I'd probably drank the five am, but I know how to rehydrate, right?
00:17:09
You knew you were meant to.
00:17:10
Yeah.
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Clear the conscious, making bad decisions, yes.
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00:18:27
I actually do have a question for you.
00:18:29
So my old platoon sergeant from Afghanistan, he was a ranger instructor.
00:18:32
Now I'm not comparing ranger school to buzz or anything else like that.
00:18:34
But he said that after a while, well, he said after a while of doing the job, you could pick the ones that like you were relatively confident we're going to be able to get through.
00:18:42
I would say maybe there, but in sometimes it's like, it may have actually done it where it's like, it's a toss up because you look at it, and you're like, you I guarantee they're like,
00:18:53
Oh, he's going to suck at road marching or these things.
00:18:56
I sucked it running because I'm fucking.
00:18:58
I'm saying like sorry, short people and I can't go marching can suck a cock at 135 pounds.
00:19:04
Like a little Mexican Elias, like, these 18 inch legs on a soft sand, I'm just fucking done.
00:19:13
Just go start harrowing me because I'm not going to pass.
00:19:15
I was like, I'm six, two, and I'm like stepping out just trying to get on the road and the tall dudes are like, why don't you just step longer like seven foot time, like cool.
00:19:23
Like three steps for one of yours.
00:19:26
Yeah.
00:19:27
You're a friggin sweat.
00:19:28
No, but it's, it's, and I try not to, I mean, every now and you would get some, you can just tell like character wise, they just, they don't have it for what we need to do.
00:19:36
But yeah, I mean, you'd have these little skinny kids are like, there ain't no way he's going to stay warm.
00:19:40
And they pass.
00:19:41
And then the same thing on the other side, I think super motivated high school quarterback, and Supreme athlete, doesn't know how to fucking lose it things, said, can I tell a quick story?
00:19:52
Yeah, jump in there.
00:19:53
Can we get in there?
00:19:54
Come around the mic home.
00:19:55
Sit down.
00:19:56
Sit down.
00:19:57
Sit on my lap.
00:19:58
So a friend of mine in Terry's, for instance, the difference between like the Rangers.
00:20:05
This is Kevin, by the way.
00:20:06
Uncle Kevin.
00:20:07
Uncle Kevin.
00:20:08
He touches me, no, no, I don't move here.
00:20:23
Because most of my career has been working with these guys, and you know, the difference between, let's say, the Rangers of the White Side Seals and the Tier One groups,
00:20:33
you know, there's a lot of examples of it, but a friend of mine, Terry's, it was on the green side.
00:20:38
He was at 39 years old, wounded severely in combat in Iraq, and both arms like, for instance, one arm,
00:20:49
one arm, 21 surgeries to repair it.
00:20:52
So he's almost 40 years old, and so he's on the green side, and he wants to deploy again.
00:20:58
He's one of a few set of brothers that's ever been in that.
00:21:02
And he wanted to go back and deploy, and they were worried about it.
00:21:06
And so his deal was, okay, go through Ranger School, and if you can pass that, we'll consider what you deploy.
00:21:16
And so at 40 years old, after like 60 surgeries from his wounds, he's got more holes in him than anyone in the history of the green side.
00:21:28
He finished first in his class at Ranger School.
00:21:32
Yeah.
00:21:33
At that age, after those wounds, he's like three years of surgery and rehab, and then went back and deployed for a few years before he retired just to show he could do it.
00:21:42
You know, it was like a middle thing for him.
00:21:44
And so, so when I ask him him, and he's been a friend of mine for 20 years, and he looks like a gay waiter, he doesn't look like some, you know, badass, and he know when I ask him him.
00:21:56
He's so mad here.
00:21:57
He's so gay!
00:21:58
He's exactly what he's talking about.
00:22:00
He's got a little list too, but he is the most badass guy in the world, and he just like wanted to do it.
00:22:08
He wanted to prove it to himself, and that's what they told him.
00:22:11
So it's interesting going from, you know, like elite groups like the Rangers or White Side Seals to the Tier 1 groups, and the difference, you know, out of 100 guys, one or two can be here.
00:22:23
And him, at that age, went and did it, and kicked the shit out of everyone, then goes back into poison retires.
00:22:30
And it's like, that's how special, and I think it gets lost a lot of times.
00:22:33
And I was like, oh, Navy Seals, Navy Seals, that's awesome.
00:22:36
But going from Navy Seals to the next level, that's just like one and a thousand.
00:22:42
And, you know, so Terry's humble about it, and Terry's very sure working probably couldn't do it now.
00:22:47
But I wouldn't want to.
00:22:49
But it is, he's doing army, he's here.
00:22:53
Like how fucking cool that is.
00:22:54
And, you know, and I remember this guy who did this, he told me, he's like his entire life, from T-Ball, until through Rangers special forces,
00:23:05
until his way to the Tier 1 group, was like he was always the best, anything he did, whether it was baseball, football, basketball, like anything athletic,
00:23:16
track and fit.
00:23:17
He was always number one without trying, and he was like always such a bad ass.
00:23:21
And he's like, he told me, he's like, I remember when I went through selection.
00:23:26
And then when he was selected, and he goes to his group, the rest of his career, he had to try and work hard as hell to be average.
00:23:36
And that's just like, that's those guys.
00:23:37
I mean, my entire career has been working on these guys, and they wouldn't be great at anything.
00:23:42
That's where, like, you or any of the other guys, it's like, you get to know them and everything, and their brothers and the NFL, or their brothers and major league baseball, or their brother runs Amazon, or whatever the hell it is,
00:23:52
and it's like, oh, these guys would be successful.
00:23:55
Anything to do.
00:23:56
And I think that's the difference.
00:23:57
You know, it's physical, and it's also cognitive.
00:24:00
But that will, to, yeah, I'm not going to quit, and yeah, I'll go kick the shit out of all these 22-year-old Army guys that think they want to be Rangers.
00:24:07
Just because you said I couldn't do it.
00:24:09
Yeah.
00:24:10
So that's it.
00:24:11
So I think it gets lost, and these guys sometimes are too humble.
00:24:14
And for me, I want smart kids that are bad-ass, just want to grow up to be Navy Seals, or I want to grow up to be in Army Special Forces.
00:24:21
Because it's great, because when you go kill dudes, we want the best dudes to go do it.
00:24:26
Absolutely.
00:24:27
Definitely mentality.
00:24:28
And so a bunch of your teammates have told me, like the Charlie Sheen Navy Seal movie is what inspired them to become Navy Seals, and that's- Yeah.
00:24:36
Drinking and cocaine?
00:24:37
Why not?
00:24:38
Well, that settles it for me.
00:24:41
Do you know what, hold on a minute.
00:24:44
The simple fact, dude, 40-40 years old, and going through Rangers school after getting fucked up in war?
00:24:52
Not that guy.
00:24:53
Seven.
00:24:54
I would hands down to be tough, but I'm too old.
00:24:58
Seventy holes.
00:25:00
Doc, no.
00:25:01
I'm not waking up.
00:25:02
Nope.
00:25:03
Get your starving at 40.
00:25:04
It's gotta be something I've been through with, man.
00:25:06
I'll be honest.
00:25:07
I'd be a matter if I got shot.
00:25:08
The 70th one is the worst.
00:25:09
You could've stopped at 69.
00:25:10
What a hilarious.
00:25:11
It's also a grenade.
00:25:12
Thank God.
00:25:13
I'll just say it about a little bit.
00:25:18
Yeah.
00:25:19
You know, God damn it.
00:25:20
You're like, why are you putting on podcasts with people like this, man?
00:25:23
I was in my chair a couple of weeks ago and moved wrong, and I had to decide between either getting to my truck or calling an ambulance.
00:25:30
Okay.
00:25:31
My back just locked up on me in my fucking chair in my office.
00:25:34
Did you just go, "Pitching?"
00:25:35
Yeah, it was right in the middle of my spine, and I was like, "Oh, I was trying to reach my phone on the desk, and I couldn't," and I was like, "Oh, it was a knot, no."
00:25:44
And then that.
00:25:45
I'm sold, though.
00:25:46
I have a new goal.
00:25:47
And I'm here in Kevin's speech.
00:25:49
So how old are you?
00:25:51
51.
00:25:52
51.
00:25:53
We can do it.
00:25:54
So if you don't know, the first time Ethan came on, this is like his fifth appearance at least, the first time he came on, he was going to finish out his 20 years, and on the podcast, I openly said,
00:26:04
"I'm going to get you to quit your job."
00:26:07
And six weeks later, he-- I know.
00:26:09
We went through numbers.
00:26:11
We did some analytics.
00:26:13
He's four years out from retirement.
00:26:15
Yeah.
00:26:16
What are you retiring still?
00:26:17
Yeah.
00:26:18
I'm looking at a med board.
00:26:19
They want to open up my other hip.
00:26:20
They're already open up.
00:26:21
One of both my knees.
00:26:22
I'm like, "You know what?
00:26:23
I'm used up.
00:26:24
I'm just walking."
00:26:25
I'm good.
00:26:26
I'll go make YouTube videos.
00:26:27
I'm not that guy.
00:26:28
I'm not that 40-year-old.
00:26:29
You're a 70-year-old.
00:26:30
I'm like, "No one's going to be like me."
00:26:31
Ethan's bad-ass.
00:26:32
I'm like, "That fat fuck is funny."
00:26:35
You know what's cool, too?
00:26:36
So this individual now retired as a CEO of a company in our industry.
00:26:44
So he retires from that and then goes on to-- he wants to work in the industry.
00:26:49
Now it was a CEO of a company that helps those guys to do what they do.
00:26:54
So even in that regard, he rose to the top.
00:26:57
OK.
00:26:58
He's built different.
00:26:59
I mean, he's like, "I'm not the cream that rises to the top."
00:27:02
Yeah, I'm not the cream that's curled at the bottom of the top, dude.
00:27:05
I'm not the cream that's curled at the bottom of the top, dude.
00:27:11
I'm not the cream that's curled at the bottom of the top, dude.
00:27:12
I'm not the cream that's curled at the bottom.
00:27:13
I'm not the cream that's curled at the bottom.
00:27:14
I reverse recruited him.
00:27:15
True.
00:27:16
We're going to recruit you and get you to join the military again.
00:27:18
That sold me on it.
00:27:19
I don't know if I could.
00:27:20
Yeah.
00:27:21
I think I might have been aged out by now.
00:27:22
They'll make an exception.
00:27:23
Yeah.
00:27:24
I was like, "You're on it now."
00:27:25
You're on it now.
00:27:26
Yeah.
00:27:27
[LAUGHTER]
00:27:28
He's probably ran his medals.
00:27:29
I don't know what this is.
00:27:30
I'm going to wake up in basic.
00:27:31
No.
00:27:32
Oh, fuck.
00:27:33
I bet.
00:27:34
I think we've got a general coming on soon that might be able to waive that.
00:27:37
Yeah.
00:27:38
Yeah.
00:27:39
Just to get you back in the swing thing, we'll have you going up, you know, find you in the middle of the night with a red flashlight and say you got a fire guard.
00:27:45
Both of them right there.
00:27:46
Yeah.
00:27:47
I know how much of money I would pay if we could secretly film him going to just a regular army basic training at like Fort Jackson.
00:27:53
I'll just go to the recruiter and see if he saw me up at 51.
00:27:57
You have a funny, that would be.
00:28:00
Play it down during all of the training.
00:28:02
He's down with my knees getting handled.
00:28:04
Just short, a little shuffle.
00:28:05
We're uncrapated.
00:28:06
We don't say a thing until week 15.
00:28:09
When you actually are on platform and you have your rack, he's in his class as you show it up.
00:28:19
He's trying his bullshit.
00:28:21
How are you in bootcamp with a new man?
00:28:22
We're close.
00:28:23
We'll tell you a little story.
00:28:25
Give me a hear of him.
00:28:27
Blue to green.
00:28:28
What are these tritons?
00:28:30
Drill sergeants don't even have deployment patches.
00:28:33
(audience laughing)
00:28:36
- Yes, Chevron.
00:28:37
(audience laughing)
00:28:39
- They stay forever and stay forever.
00:28:41
(audience laughing)
00:28:43
- He walks in there, I'll just look at you.
00:28:44
We fucked up.
00:28:45
- I mean, we don't have.
00:28:47
(audience laughing)
00:28:48
- Everyone's terrible at the tears.
00:28:50
- It's like undercover boss.
00:28:52
(audience laughing)
00:28:55
- It would be so funny.
00:28:56
- I know, I know.
00:28:57
- I know, I know.
00:28:58
- I know.
00:28:58
- I know, I know.
00:28:59
- You're clean, Jay.
00:29:00
- Anyway, guys, fucking hate this.
00:29:02
- I'd probably look like a baby.
00:29:03
Like, I've had this beard for years.
00:29:04
I'd probably look young.
00:29:06
- You're 35.
00:29:07
- You're first time.
00:29:08
- You're basic training.
00:29:09
- Yeah.
00:29:10
- You're a lady.
00:29:11
- I just made the age cut off.
00:29:12
- Yeah, girl.
00:29:13
- A line cook, a waffle house.
00:29:14
- That's kind of divorce.
00:29:15
- You're looking for a new star.
00:29:16
(audience laughing)
00:29:17
- The good lady.
00:29:18
- The good lady.
00:29:19
- The good lady.
00:29:20
- The good lady.
00:29:21
- The good lady, the good lady.
00:29:22
- The good lady.
00:29:23
- Dude, I remember those 35-year-olds in Beijing.
00:29:28
I've said it.
00:29:29
- Dude, I got the luckiest, basic training.
00:29:31
- Like, period.
00:29:33
- Joined, we had 40 people, 42.
00:29:36
28 of them were E-Force 'cause they're all college grads.
00:29:40
- Oh, yeah.
00:29:41
- So everyone else was like an E-3.
00:29:43
So the drill's on.
00:29:44
At the end, we're like, "Y'all really squared away."
00:29:48
Thank you.
00:29:51
That was it.
00:29:52
Like, we had a radio since week three.
00:29:54
They let us walk.
00:29:55
I remember going to meds at basic.
00:29:58
And they're like, "Oh, the fucking kill's on."
00:30:00
"What's that kill's on?"
00:30:02
Like, in the middle of the aisle where you can't step, I'm like, "What?
00:30:06
What the fuck are you talking about?"
00:30:07
Like, "Well, you can walk in the middle of your bear."
00:30:09
So they're like, eh?
00:30:11
Like, you guys don't have a radio either?
00:30:13
They were looking at us.
00:30:14
Like, what the fuck?
00:30:15
- What would you guys fuck up?
00:30:16
- Yeah, we didn't know I did.
00:30:18
It was just a wild thing.
00:30:19
- They knew all that Fort Knox can talk you with 123-tards, man.
00:30:23
Like, I swear we were on Red Cycle the entire time.
00:30:26
(laughing)
00:30:29
Watching other ones, you didn't do it.
00:30:31
I was like, "What is music playing at three in the morning?"
00:30:34
You looked out, it's like whites are turning off.
00:30:36
It's like, "Oh, they're playing."
00:30:38
- Ames up there.
00:30:39
- They earned something.
00:30:40
- Ah, dude.
00:30:41
- Now, when you did, you were buds.
00:30:44
And then what group did you go with?
00:30:46
What team were you with, initially?
00:30:48
- Yeah, so graduate buds went to Seal Team 4.
00:30:50
Back in, I got there in October 93, I believe it was.
00:30:54
- Yep, so Team 4, 2 points, South America.
00:30:57
Awesome time, like South America and I used to be awesome.
00:31:00
You can serve, hang out with the locals.
00:31:02
The dollar was strong, so you could take all your local dude you're training, the dinner and drinks, and it was like 30 bucks or whatever.
00:31:09
- I don't want to do that.
00:31:11
- Yeah, 2 points, I don't love South America.
00:31:13
- That's what you know about now, but probably worth going back there now.
00:31:17
Kevin, I'm sure there's something down there.
00:31:18
We can go kill in an Ecuador.
00:31:20
(laughing)
00:31:21
(laughing)
00:31:24
- Animal wise.
00:31:25
(laughing)
00:31:27
- That was the one.
00:31:28
(laughing)
00:31:31
- No, that's off the coast of Somalia.
00:31:34
- Oh, Nick, Nick was finding out you were going to South Africa.
00:31:38
He's like, we're going to Africa next year.
00:31:40
Nick's like, don't pop.
00:31:42
I read some, like, what?
00:31:43
- That is a thing.
00:31:44
- Yeah.
00:31:45
- I'm aware of that.
00:31:46
- That's why I said it.
00:31:47
- Yeah, Kevin stopped nodding.
00:31:48
(laughing)
00:31:50
- Kevin's got, I got a boot.
00:31:51
(laughing)
00:31:53
- The game killed people.
00:31:54
(laughing)
00:31:56
- That's it.
00:31:57
- Where we going?
00:31:58
(laughing)
00:31:59
- It's never boxing exclusive.
00:32:01
- I think Disney's going to get mad when I steal the pirates of the Caribbean stuff.
00:32:05
(laughing)
00:32:07
- Just the outfit.
00:32:08
(laughing)
00:32:11
- You got to have the eye shadow in your room.
00:32:13
- Oh, that's a six chamber.
00:32:15
(laughing)
00:32:17
(laughing)
00:32:20
- Oh shit.
00:32:21
- Jesus Christ.
00:32:22
- Every time I feel like we peaked on it inside, I come back for another (bleep)
00:32:24
episode.
00:32:25
- Right now, I'm gonna fuck that line.
00:32:27
I'm gonna go even further.
00:32:28
- So you were still team four out the gate, and then you worked up to how many years in time?
00:32:34
- Ah, that's where you landed.
00:32:35
- So five years.
00:32:36
At that point, my list went up.
00:32:38
I'm like, okay, get out.
00:32:39
I guess I never really thought about making a career of it, and my girlfriend and then, my wife now.
00:32:44
She's like, why not?
00:32:45
- Still?
00:32:46
- No, no, she's awesome.
00:32:47
- That's fucked up.
00:32:48
- She's awesome.
00:32:49
Anyway, yeah, it's like.
00:32:50
- That's a shripper.
00:32:51
- Well, I'm not going anywhere.
00:32:52
She's like, well, if you're not going anywhere, I guess I'm going to reenlist.
00:32:54
And if I reenlist, I'm gonna try out for this development group of things.
00:32:56
She's like, what is it?
00:32:57
I don't know.
00:32:58
But it's funny, 'cause I think I was telling one of the guys earlier, it was like, my first and second platoon chief are both from there.
00:33:04
But they never really talked about what it was, what they did, anything else.
00:33:08
It was just kind of understood that you do your time at team four, for your first one, and then you try to go to green team and keep progressing on.
00:33:16
So, again, no idea what was really getting into other than, that's just the next level to go to.
00:33:21
So I went to green team in '98 and...
00:33:23
- I love you just the long.
00:33:24
- You know, they said it was cool.
00:33:25
- Yeah, that's where everybody gets.
00:33:26
- So far, everyone stepped in.
00:33:27
- Everyone was like, "Oh."
00:33:28
- Yeah, there was a CD at this point.
00:33:30
(all laughing)
00:33:33
- It's fortunate, because I didn't really know what to expect.
00:33:37
So I had no expectations of what I was getting into.
00:33:40
I showed up and did the work and was, like Kevin said.
00:33:43
I was average at best in green team, but I didn't fucking hang up in no safety violations.
00:33:49
I didn't kill anybody, so I made it through.
00:33:51
- It was average at being 0.00% of the top.
00:33:54
- Yeah.
00:33:55
- Through all the guys, like my old first heart, it was until some of the cat guys came out.
00:34:02
We were training at the other ranch here, and they just came out and they were like, "Oh, they were fans of content."
00:34:08
I was like, "Oh, I think my first heart."
00:34:10
He did a long walk and like, 'cause your first heart was like, "Oh, CJ."
00:34:15
And they're like, "Dude, don't fuck out."
00:34:17
You know what I'm saying?
00:34:18
I was like, "Yeah."
00:34:19
He was like first hearting nine years.
00:34:21
He was with a range second bat, and then just like sped through everything.
00:34:25
- Yeah, so trained us up and out.
00:34:27
- And then when he, the stories they were telling me, I was like, "I did not know that, CJ."
00:34:32
That is the difference.
00:34:33
(all laughing)
00:34:34
- That's the figure, yeah.
00:34:35
- That was funny, 'cause I did two deployments, and this is like pre anything, we're like going on other than, you know, we're doing fit or foreign-teneral offense.
00:34:43
Training locals do a little bit of like counter drug stuff, but not in the crazy.
00:34:48
I'm like, "Oh, I'm pretty cool."
00:34:50
I know what I'm doing.
00:34:51
I've been in for five years, and they show up over there, and you're like, "Your peer group at that point."
00:34:55
You're like, "Oh fuck, this is like the cream of the crop."
00:34:59
Like, some of the guys I had in my green team were just absolute legends.
00:35:03
I got to really step up my shit.
00:35:06
I thought I was cool at team four, but not here.
00:35:10
- Always a bigger fish.
00:35:11
- Yeah, oh yeah.
00:35:12
And I was the youngest guy in the class, so I was the baby.
00:35:15
- How old were you at this point?
00:35:16
- 25.
00:35:17
- Okay.
00:35:18
How long have you been with your wife?
00:35:19
- Shhh.
00:35:21
- I've been married 26 years, I think.
00:35:25
- You got kids?
00:35:26
- Yeah.
00:35:27
- So, I mean, you were right out.
00:35:29
- I think.
00:35:30
- I got you.
00:35:31
- We're over the 25 here now, yeah.
00:35:35
- So, I mean, you were top of the line, everything, by the time the internet was around and before anybody even knew what that was.
00:35:45
Is there a point where your wife and/or your kids like turn around, wait, hold on.
00:35:51
Dad does that?
00:35:52
- Well, they grew up like that.
00:35:54
So, my wife, she's from that, well, not from the community, but we started dating when I was a team four, so she's just been around seals in that community and other girlfriends, so she just understood what was going on.
00:36:06
And when 9/11 kicked off, it was a whole different world.
00:36:09
We didn't have kids at that point, so I was like, "Hey, I'm going here, I don't know when I'm coming back."
00:36:14
And she just got into that cycle like every nine months to take it off, and then we had a first kid, and I would come home, I would try to be the best that I could when I'm home, and then I'm gone for 200 days a year,
00:36:25
or whatever it's going to be from training and deployments and everything else.
00:36:29
It's a super strong lady, and super awesome, and I'm lucky to have her.
00:36:33
I mean, we had struggles like everybody else does, but yeah, I think I was lucky because I was gone so much that by the time she got tired of my bullshit, I would leave for a while, and then she said, "Okay."
00:36:42
And come back home and like, come home and like, piss her off again and like, "Oh, I'm gone again," but you being home has heard deployment.
00:36:47
- Yeah, exactly, yeah.
00:36:49
But yeah, this, I mean, I know where I was going with that, but yeah, so it's, it's, I don't know, where that question was, but yeah.
00:36:55
- Oh, I just like, I mean, was there ever, like, so your wife knew, but I mean, when you started having kids, like, was there a day where one of your kids came in?
00:37:03
I was like, "Oh shit, my dad's way f***er than I thought."
00:37:07
- My dad's a chuck-known man.
00:37:08
- No, I was never like, "Poverance."
00:37:10
- I never ever shit, and they were like, "Hey, I wonder for my dad."
00:37:14
- Oh, we're going to get to that.
00:37:16
- Okay, it's funny because my girls are never impressed.
00:37:18
So like, dad's dad, like, she knew what I did, and my friends and his poor boyfriends.
00:37:23
- Yeah, I was about to say, like, oh my God.
00:37:25
I went to school and, like, we just don't talk about what dad does.
00:37:28
And it was funny because, like, my daughter, she was probably third grade, or whatever, my wife tells the story.
00:37:33
She was at school doing something, and it's like, "Okay, what's your dad do?"
00:37:37
It's like, "Well, we don't talk about dad."
00:37:39
And teachers were like, "Matically, like, "Oh, dad's an asshole.
00:37:42
"We probably beat the wife in her divorce," or whatever.
00:37:45
And she's like, "Okay, and eventually, my daughter's like, "Dad's in Iraq, killing bad guys," or whatever it was.
00:37:51
And teachers are like, "Oh."
00:37:53
And we're just not gonna ask questions.
00:37:55
But it's funny because there's no talking about where dad goes or when he's gone.
00:38:00
- Well, that's what's crazy is a lot of people.
00:38:02
Like, we had, when you guys were both, even when I deployed, it was such different offset versus, you didn't get the chance to, you couldn't say when you were deploying at those first year, like, first year.
00:38:12
- It worked really good.
00:38:13
The only one was different.
00:38:14
Our first Iraq deployment was, so I was three, you know, everything kicks off.
00:38:20
We four deploy our green brothers over there.
00:38:23
They're doing a different mission than we're doing them.
00:38:25
WMD stuff.
00:38:26
That was probably the only deployment for, like, 60 to 90 days to where we didn't call home.
00:38:32
The command people would keep them involved.
00:38:35
Like, "Hey, the guys are deployed.
00:38:37
Everybody's fine."
00:38:37
Like, they would keep them up to date.
00:38:39
But that was probably the only window out of the 26 years that I didn't talk to her at some point.
00:38:45
And, like, and she didn't really know what was going on.
00:38:47
I was obviously watching the news.
00:38:49
She knew what was going on, but she had no idea what it was really where we were.
00:38:53
But outside of that, it was once a week or once every couple of you, like, whatever I could.
00:38:58
We'd call her emailing me when he emails back then, and I'm not that old, but, yeah, so it's about-- - She said Nelson.
00:39:03
- Yeah, so it-- - I see you.
00:39:05
- I think ASO, man.
00:39:06
- Yeah, and I think the best thing that she ever did was she never got sucked into the whole wife network.
00:39:11
We call it the pink squad and whatever we don't call it.
00:39:13
Like, the bitchiness, like, "Oh, my husband did this."
00:39:16
Like, she never put up with that bullshit.
00:39:18
She's like, "Hey, she had her friends."
00:39:20
She made really good friends with other Navy-wise that were not in the command, so she just didn't put up with that bullshit.
00:39:25
- What did we call him?
00:39:26
- Which saved me a lot of problems.
00:39:27
- We call him Dependipotomuses.
00:39:28
- Yeah, Dependipotomuses is like-- - No, my wife's hot, so she wouldn't-- - Yeah, no, no, no, no.
00:39:32
- Is that FRG group where you're like-- - Oh, yeah.
00:39:35
- Yeah, hold on.
00:39:36
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:37
- My wife actively, like, every time anything happens at work and, like, they do mandatory funds.
00:39:42
She either, "A, doesn't show up or be."
00:39:44
She, like, goes out of her way to-- - Goes the minimum.
00:39:47
- Yes, goes, "Well, like, she just tries to make it miserable for everybody else there."
00:39:50
Like, it'll be for the kids and she'll, like, go and take all the pizza and just walk away with it.
00:39:54
Like, fuck the kids.
00:39:55
She's like, "You made me be here.
00:39:57
I don't want to be here."
00:39:58
- Get your ass outta here.
00:39:59
- Yeah.
00:40:00
Holy shit.
00:40:01
It is-- - After you got there, after, like, running, there's so many questions.
00:40:07
Like, dude, all the-- - Take it first up.
00:40:09
- Take it first up.
00:40:10
- Yeah, dude, I just love it.
00:40:11
I get so excited with this shit because we don't get a talk about it much.
00:40:14
It's like, we were talking-- I was telling that to us, like, again, you were telling about, like, "Thirma Bear Grenades" and then-- - AT4.
00:40:20
- "Thirma Bear."
00:40:21
- Yeah.
00:40:22
- AT4s.
00:40:23
We did not get to discuss that.
00:40:24
- I was like-- - Hold the fuck.
00:40:26
- I've heard of the CQB AT4.
00:40:27
- Yeah.
00:40:28
- I'm not familiar with this one.
00:40:29
- Yeah, I was on that podcast too.
00:40:30
There's a "Thirma Bear," one day.
00:40:31
- Yeah, that's what I was like.
00:40:32
- Yeah, that's what I was like.
00:40:33
- But you guys get the cool fucking weapon platform.
00:40:35
- Oh, yeah, you want to drop a building quick.
00:40:36
Launch one of those things through the window and the game is over.
00:40:48
- Our new merch for the podcast is going to be a cartoon drawing of the AT4 and it's going to say, "I had the talking stick."
00:40:55
- I have the talking tube.
00:40:59
- Like the old Australian like, "Green Things."
00:41:02
- Yeah.
00:41:03
- Wow.
00:41:05
- You better send me one.
00:41:06
- Yeah, I mean, you drop a building with an AT4.
00:41:08
- So Eric is fucking awesome.
00:41:09
- When did you first get introduced to this weapon's platform?
00:41:13
- That one knows a big on the breacher side of it.
00:41:15
I never got the shot.
00:41:16
Shoot one, challenge, shoot one.
00:41:18
- I don't know.
00:41:19
- But you tell us.
00:41:20
- You never hear for the ride, right?
00:41:21
- Yeah.
00:41:22
- Either it could be right to us.
00:41:23
- Yeah, so I never got to shoot one, but some of the other guys did.
00:41:25
And it's, yeah.
00:41:26
- That was probably-- I was at an Iraq when I first saw it.
00:41:29
So it's probably mid five, six, seven, and so on.
00:41:34
So we had a fact check and be like, "This is when it was invented."
00:41:36
- No, no one in this community would be like, "That dude's a hero."
00:41:39
- Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.
00:41:41
Knowing this random shit's my job, I've never heard of it.
00:41:44
- Do you remember Cree T4?
00:41:46
- No.
00:41:47
To give you an idea, I did a video on-- - Now you got me a question.
00:41:51
Maybe it was a different rocket.
00:41:52
- You let me know if we have to cut that out.
00:41:54
But I-- - Oh, you didn't say whatever.
00:41:56
Some of you had a fact check in there.
00:41:57
- I can do that.
00:41:58
- Oh, no, that was a cruel-- - Did they make a Karol stop project?
00:42:00
(laughing)
00:42:01
- Maybe it was that.
00:42:02
- I don't know.
00:42:03
- Have you seen the Hellfire missile that's just kinetic with the katanas in it?
00:42:06
- Huh.
00:42:07
- They make a Hellfire missile with no ordnance, and it just has eight katanas that flail out, and it's just direct impact for when you want to hit one (beep)
00:42:15
dude.
00:42:15
- Like literally like front wall.
00:42:17
- Like one seat of a car.
00:42:18
- One car with no casualties or whatever.
00:42:20
It was a-- We killed some big Kalaban leaders.
00:42:24
- Yeah, he was out on his balcony.
00:42:25
- Yeah, he would go out on his morning.
00:42:26
- Yeah, he would go out on his balcony every morning to drink coffee and just right on his balcony.
00:42:31
- Just like a manhole cover.
00:42:32
- One point through here.
00:42:33
- Yeah.
00:42:34
- Raising.
00:42:35
- Just katana leads.
00:42:36
- Katana leads.
00:42:37
- And I did a video on it, and it was never on Wikipedia or anything.
00:42:39
And like 40 years later it was on Wikipedia.
00:42:41
(laughing)
00:42:42
And it's still thermal-barric grenade coming soon to Wikipedia.
00:42:45
- Yeah, we have thermal-barric ATV.
00:42:47
- Yeah, we had killed it.
00:42:48
- Yeah, what's burning it up?
00:42:49
- Yeah, what's burning it up?
00:42:50
- Do we need those legalized-- - Yeah.
00:42:52
- Yeah.
00:42:53
- Yeah.
00:42:54
- Yeah.
00:42:55
- And it's like-- - It goes all in, man, so what should we make?
00:42:58
- We started making it after a one.
00:43:00
We first got over like predator, like all that ISR shit.
00:43:03
We didn't have any other stuff.
00:43:05
L-102 or three is like, what's in there?
00:43:08
Best guess, we'll figure it out.
00:43:10
- I know units today that if they got dropped in a foreign country and said, all right, here's a map.
00:43:14
You need to figure out where the hell you're going.
00:43:16
They would shit their pants.
00:43:17
- Oh yeah, that's terrible.
00:43:19
- Well, it's good from the fact that we have that technology and we can leverage it to keep guys as safe as we can.
00:43:26
But it's also bad, like, hey, if the Chinese knockout or fucking satellites, how are you going to fucking solve the problem?
00:43:32
- That's over dependence.
00:43:33
- That's a wonderful point.
00:43:34
- I was working with you.
00:43:35
- We train you.
00:43:36
- We train you that now with the guys, so it's good.
00:43:38
- Absolutely.
00:43:39
- It's good.
00:43:40
- Oh, man, bro.
00:43:41
- Yeah, that all.
00:43:42
- Well, not now, I'd be like, I don't remember.
00:43:44
- I was working with the enemy.
00:43:45
- I was working with the enemy.
00:43:46
- I was working with the enemy.
00:43:47
- I was working with the enemy.
00:43:48
- I was working with the enemy.
00:43:49
- I was working with the enemy.
00:43:50
- I didn't use so much shit.
00:43:53
- I don't remember this.
00:43:54
- One, two.
00:43:56
- All right, give my mirror first.
00:43:58
- I didn't use it.
00:43:59
- I hated that shit.
00:44:00
- Does it look any different than normally T4?
00:44:02
Is it just around inside the sun?
00:44:03
- No, it's probably question.
00:44:04
Like, it's a long time ago.
00:44:05
- I don't know if I can find the difference between the two.
00:44:07
- I'm sure there's something on the side that says, don't fucking drop this.
00:44:10
- Because I know that, like, the CQB one had like a water charge on the back that would take care of most of the back blast.
00:44:17
- You were learning how to say it.
00:44:19
- It is one of those crazy things, because it's like what you guys do.
00:44:23
Another random fucking thing.
00:44:25
Did you do Halo while you were in?
00:44:27
Like, it's one of those things.
00:44:29
- Dude, this is the heart.
00:44:31
- He was the five.
00:44:32
- He was the five.
00:44:33
- It is the craziest thing to me is your Halo school.
00:44:38
If people do not do a wind tunnel or know the training and you trained on a wooden board, and it was, right?
00:44:45
- Yeah, you're like spinning around.
00:44:46
Oh, look at this guy to have him.
00:44:48
- Bro, like, this is the only thing I should never understand.
00:44:51
It was a wind board and they're like, no, hire.
00:44:53
Push your dick into, arch it.
00:44:56
And then they're like, and what a fucking point.
00:45:00
- Yeah.
00:45:01
- You figured out.
00:45:02
- Yeah, how the fuck?
00:45:04
'Cause it took me three days of tunnel time to figure it out.
00:45:07
And I was just slamming it into the fucking wall.
00:45:10
- You did come a time.
00:45:11
- Time is time.
00:45:12
- Time is time.
00:45:13
It's fine.
00:45:14
This is not tunnel time.
00:45:15
They just chuck you out and you're like, "We end up in, like, so I went through free fall in green team."
00:45:21
So we had the tunnels and all that kind of stuff.
00:45:23
But yeah, I remember the old guys of it.
00:45:25
- Oh, my little skydive board, like, "Oh, we're gonna do a formation."
00:45:27
And they're scrolling around like a little creeper for that very car.
00:45:31
'Cause winds, it's a lot more difficult than you think.
00:45:34
- Yeah, until you get the feel.
00:45:35
I mean, once you get the feel of it, then it's the easiest thing in the world.
00:45:37
- Then you strap all the shit on.
00:45:38
And I'm short and I'm small.
00:45:39
So you start strapping all the shit on.
00:45:40
I get like little hands sticking out.
00:45:42
Trying to fly over there.
00:45:43
(laughing)
00:45:47
- Yeah, I'm like, get little hands in my feet.
00:45:49
Hopefully I'm falling straight out.
00:45:50
I can't tell.
00:45:51
- We had, when we did free fall, we were with Clint Trial's.
00:45:55
Clint was part of, you know, Clint.
00:45:57
- Clint was awesome.
00:45:58
- We were jumping with Clint.
00:45:59
And his team was there.
00:46:00
So like, it was his first jump since the end of the incident.
00:46:04
And I hop in.
00:46:06
I finally barely floating.
00:46:09
And then Clint is in the tunnel with me.
00:46:11
- Wow, this is, and Clint don't have no legs.
00:46:14
And he's out flying me.
00:46:15
I was like, you're cheating first off.
00:46:17
Way easier with no legs.
00:46:18
Let's try that bitch.
00:46:20
And he's just like, we like doing Trial's.
00:46:22
I was like, God.
00:46:23
- Damn it, dude.
00:46:24
It's the hardest thing in the world.
00:46:26
- I love it.
00:46:27
- I love it.
00:46:28
- I love it.
00:46:29
- I love it.
00:46:30
- Clint is a Clint supposed to come on, too.
00:46:32
And that is, that'll be fun.
00:46:33
- Well, have you one with Clint, too?
00:46:35
- Why not?
00:46:36
You know, it's just, it's just all the dudes.
00:46:39
- Let's get Clint Marcus Latrun.
00:46:41
- Yeah, when Clint comes on, it's like, hey, what'd you fuck up to lose your legs?
00:46:45
What'd you do wrong?
00:46:46
- No.
00:46:47
- Do you claim when he landed?
00:46:50
He like flared, too.
00:46:51
Or I say like, how'd it fall?
00:46:53
- I didn't know I was like, not good.
00:46:55
Well, we're gonna do it again.
00:46:56
I guess we record that.
00:46:57
He was like, fuck you, dude.
00:47:00
- So we got, we got Thermal Barrett grenades, Thermal Barrett AT4s.
00:47:04
What other exciting shit did you get exposed to?
00:47:07
- Oh man, I mean, all the advancements of weapon systems and aiming at all that stuff was driven from the special operation side.
00:47:17
So, you'd name it.
00:47:19
- What was, I mean, if you were there for the period you were in, you saw pretty rapid advancement.
00:47:26
- Yeah, I was very lucky on my timing.
00:47:29
So I came in in the 90s, nothing's going on.
00:47:31
I got to learn how to be a seal, learn how to do my job well before 9/11 kicked off.
00:47:36
So by timing I have lung kicked off, I'm in 9/10 years in the Navy.
00:47:40
I already know the job.
00:47:42
So now we start adding complexity of, now we're in the fucking Afghanistan.
00:47:47
We don't have X, Y and Z, but we're just figured out.
00:47:50
Like, stress level is good.
00:47:52
And then, a bunch of awesome deployments slowing down, getting into leadership position.
00:47:56
And then as everything kind of starts slowing down in the world and changing to whatever we got today, it's like, I'm out.
00:48:02
Time's up.
00:48:03
I'm old.
00:48:04
- I'm good.
00:48:06
And like, timing wise is awesome.
00:48:07
I get to see the heyday of all that stuff.
00:48:10
- Yeah, you got to see, I get to do my job.
00:48:14
- You got to do war as fuck.
00:48:16
Like, I mean, initial push, that was, I don't get into like, dick measuring concept.
00:48:21
Like, I mean, don't get me wrong.
00:48:22
I was in Afghanistan, but I was in RC South.
00:48:24
So I don't mess with people who've been RC South.
00:48:26
- Yes, yes.
00:48:27
- And people who did like, initial push into Iraq or Afghanistan.
00:48:30
I'm like, nope, you're something like that.
00:48:31
- South was 40 for a while, depending on where you're at.
00:48:33
- I was, I'm 10-11.
00:48:34
- I'll tell it now.
00:48:35
- Yeah.
00:48:36
It was, I mean, there was more IEDs than direct contact.
00:48:38
- Yeah, there was a lot of IEDs down there.
00:48:40
The guys in the East were getting hit.
00:48:41
Like, yeah.
00:48:42
- Yeah, it goes six, seven.
00:48:43
We started really pushing on that.
00:48:44
- Yeah.
00:48:45
- That was fun.
00:48:46
- I was part of that big push that Obama did to try like in the war, where he just, they just threw, like, what is it?
00:48:50
15, 20,000 extra troops in Afghanistan.
00:48:52
I was part of that.
00:48:53
- And that was fun.
00:48:54
- That was that entire like, we, the surge, and you're just fighting it.
00:48:57
Like, hey, oh, oh, this is poor.
00:48:59
- Oh, yeah.
00:49:03
- Were there any new like weapon systems or equipment that you guys had to test out that you just absolutely hated and they were trying to make-- - Yeah.
00:49:11
- Yeah, like the squad.
00:49:12
- Or a fucking thing was.
00:49:14
Luckily, like, where we were at, like, he like loves the scar.
00:49:18
- Oh, shit about it.
00:49:19
- Yeah, I hate it.
00:49:20
- We broke, they sent us 12 of the tests, and we broke every single one of 'em.
00:49:23
And the folding stock, you're like, with the stock open, it blows up, and springs go fine.
00:49:27
- The fuck is this thing?
00:49:29
- Yeah, sort of the government.
00:49:31
- Yeah, it's government approved.
00:49:33
- Yeah, so that was also a comp project, but we fell under so calm that we didn't have to follow there.
00:49:38
So we went to 417 route with H&K, but yeah, that got started that.
00:49:44
We had a lot of flexibility on what we used, you know, within the law, right?
00:49:51
But yeah, we got the pick stuff.
00:49:53
- We got the pick stuff.
00:49:54
- Yeah.
00:49:55
- Like, like, all 300 blackouts, like, hey, we have a problem.
00:49:58
We need to solve this.
00:50:00
So we go out to industry, and I'm gonna help to solve that problem of, the subsonic, heavy, 'cause 556 subsonic just doesn't work.
00:50:08
- You were part of this conversation, where it was like, hey, we have the MP5 SD, we have nine mill, we have all-- - Can we just say that?
00:50:15
- Okay, I don't know where we're allowed to talk about it.
00:50:17
- If you're gonna use something wrong.
00:50:18
- I know, like, wait, can't we talk about that?
00:50:20
No?
00:50:21
- Yeah.
00:50:22
- Okay.
00:50:23
- I'm bleeping.
00:50:25
- I think it's trying to take a drink at the same time.
00:50:28
- But it is.
00:50:29
It was still, like, you had, like, 556 HK416, or whatever.
00:50:33
And then, SBDs, or SBDs, and then you have approach with 300 blackout, right?
00:50:40
- Yeah, you came from a problem set of needing a very quiet solution to a problem.
00:50:47
556, not there.
00:50:49
One of the guys in the office was talking, well, John-- John needs to come down here and do this stuff.
00:50:55
Like, talking about history stuff.
00:50:56
John knows all this stuff.
00:50:57
He built all my guns.
00:50:58
But uh-- - What's for-- - John, come on here.
00:51:02
- Yeah, so whisper stuff-- - It's just combat development.
00:51:04
- Yeah.
00:51:05
- He works for us now.
00:51:06
- Yeah.
00:51:07
- Oh, fine.
00:51:08
- Kevin's just hiring the best of people.
00:51:09
- Yeah, that's why I love it.
00:51:10
- But it was a problem.
00:51:11
We needed a subsonic solution to kill bad guys.
00:51:17
The HK MP5 and I mill doesn't really do it.
00:51:20
556, you can't slow down enough to be subsonic and still be lethal.
00:51:24
So, some of the guys talking about whisperer and John was talking about this.
00:51:27
And it was about the same time Kevin was looking at it.
00:51:30
And it just happened to be like the perfect storm of-- we have a problem.
00:51:34
They're flexible and fast enough to solve this problem.
00:51:38
And it gave us the 300 blackout, which everybody in the world has now, right?
00:51:42
- Yeah.
00:51:43
- So, it's stuff like that.
00:51:44
It's like, hey, we have an issue.
00:51:45
Go out to industry and solve it.
00:51:47
- How it was?
00:51:48
We're never really forced to, like, so calm, try to force that scar on.
00:51:51
And they did on the white side guys, but we never had to deal with it.
00:51:54
- And then how was that dealing with like the, like, the honey badger, essentially, when it was just, because we didn't know.
00:51:59
And civilian market didn't know for how long.
00:52:01
- Yeah, the honey badger went to the green guys.
00:52:03
We just, we rebuilt, just essentially M4 uppers or we bought M4 uppers into 300 blackouts.
00:52:09
So, we just swap it out.
00:52:10
Like, hey, I got my record gun.
00:52:11
Now, I got my 300 blackout upper.
00:52:13
Whatever it's going to be, just plug and play.
00:52:15
- And as I think you were talking about it, Kevin, it's like, you went from an eight pound five ounce, MP5 to a 5.5 ounce.
00:52:23
- Yeah.
00:52:24
So, finally on the blackout, you could, as a sniper, a record gun front, you could load top five rounds, subsonix.
00:52:30
And if it chit goes south, just rule right in your supersonix.
00:52:33
- And you have a round this fucking job.
00:52:35
- Is this how people feel when I talk about missiles?
00:52:37
'Cause I'm like, so, you guys are the science behind of your prism is tickling and I'm just like, I'm so happy, right?
00:52:42
- Round and bullets and subsonic and supersonic.
00:52:45
'Cause you're in a white year, this is getting developed.
00:52:48
Like, where you start rolling.
00:52:49
- It's like 10, 10, 11, something like that.
00:52:51
- Have you used it?
00:52:52
- It's going to take over.
00:52:53
- Yeah, fucking quick.
00:52:54
- And I guarantee it was awesome.
00:52:56
Especially because our main, our what from a national mission force, our main job was, how's the rest of you see?
00:53:03
So, if I'm climbing over the side of a ship and there's 500 people on board, now we got a 200 grain bullet that's going to go through a person but it's not going to go through a wall or anything else.
00:53:13
I can address an issue up close, not worried about what's necessarily behind it.
00:53:18
And then having rounds bouncing down the whole, it's still a hallway like a 556 round.
00:53:22
- And really, extremely loud in those environment I'm assuming, not the ear pro days that we have now.
00:53:29
- Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, I was suppressed everything is the way to go.
00:53:32
- No, that's still in a steal.
00:53:33
- Of course you'll lose.
00:53:34
- Suppressors when I'm younger, 'cause my ears suck.
00:53:37
- The funny part to me that I'm still hung up on is like, I can't fathom the level of bad-ass you have to be for the United States government to trust you to change the uppers and calibers in different bullets.
00:53:48
- They're in a different way.
00:53:50
- The average, the average infantry I would never be allowed to do.
00:53:54
- We got this.
00:53:56
- That knock on wood, I don't think we ever blew up an upper.
00:54:00
We can fund some of those developments.
00:54:02
Like, hey, 556 is great for a lot of stuff but like the old green tip bullets or FMJ bullets just don't fucking work on people.
00:54:09
So let's develop a bullet that fits into the gun.
00:54:12
I could get a 77 grain, like 70 grain, like all these different variations of 556 that came out over the ear.
00:54:19
- The great, yes.
00:54:20
- Much more lethal.
00:54:21
- Yeah, I didn't know those were a thing until I was handed a lot of grit for like, "Huh, those are now."
00:54:27
(laughing)
00:54:28
- Yeah.
00:54:29
- And that's what, you know, it came into the Shortbrill 308 stuff was.
00:54:32
I racked, this was 0506.
00:54:35
We're in and out of vehicles, like panders or strikers or whatever it is.
00:54:39
- And it is literally like you can dispel.
00:54:42
- So we've got SR25s, which are awesome guns, but they're long as shit.
00:54:46
Like, I can't get in now effectively, and I need to still kill people 500 yards, so we just started chopping barrels.
00:54:51
Like John's, I guess, here's a 12-inch barrel, try that.
00:54:54
- We're not allowed to do that with R.
00:54:56
(laughing)
00:54:57
- So we went to a bunch of different variations and then like, okay, the SR is awesome as it is.
00:55:03
It's not gonna be that solving that Shortbrill gas gun 308, that gives me that, well, what this does now.
00:55:11
But back then, we were just experimenting and that led into the 417, you know, the 308s and all the other shit that came out of that.
00:55:19
- Now, it's pleased over into the civilian market all the time.
00:55:22
- Well, it's like, we're going back to the ocean.
00:55:26
This is like, what?
00:55:29
- There was a movie about your stuff.
00:55:32
(laughing)
00:55:33
- We can, we get it to high points, so-- - High points?
00:55:37
- Yeah, high points.
00:55:38
- How was it?
00:55:39
- Did you like that movie?
00:55:40
(laughing)
00:55:41
- I keep saying I gotta go back and watch it 'cause we're talking catfilps.
00:55:45
So I was part of that.
00:55:47
You know, thankfully, I love that.
00:55:49
Like, of my, almost 30 year career, there was two missions where we brought Americans home that I was on.
00:55:54
Like, catfilps won and then Jessica Lynch was the other one.
00:55:57
Like, I was part of both of those.
00:55:58
- You were part of Jessica Lynch.
00:56:00
- One of like, the hundreds of people there.
00:56:01
- Home shit.
00:56:02
- Like, that ends where one of the hundreds of people there.
00:56:05
- And all the stuff that we do, that's exactly where we live.
00:56:08
(laughing)
00:56:09
That's exactly why we do our jobs.
00:56:11
Like, our job is to bring Americans home, right?
00:56:13
Number one, like, kill bad guys are awesome, but if there's a chance to bring an American home, we do that.
00:56:18
Yeah, so catfilps, I was forward deployed to Eastern Africa doing some work over there.
00:56:23
Small team of guys.
00:56:25
And, I boss calls me.
00:56:27
I'm in another country, away from the rest of the guys.
00:56:30
Doing some work for us and three letter guys.
00:56:33
And, my boss calls me.
00:56:34
It's like, like, eight o'clock a night or something.
00:56:37
It's like, hey, are you watching news?
00:56:39
Like, no, sir.
00:56:40
Obviously, I'm not.
00:56:41
I'm working at the bar or wherever I was at.
00:56:44
So, I get back to the hotel, turn the news on him.
00:56:46
Like, oh, fucks, I call him.
00:56:47
Like, do I get to come back?
00:56:49
Like, what's going on?
00:56:50
I was like, no, just keep an eye on it.
00:56:52
There's nothing we can do at this point.
00:56:53
There's just too far out to see.
00:56:55
Fast forward, like, five thirty a morning.
00:56:57
So, my phone calls, like, we need you back here now.
00:57:00
So, I don't know if you guys have ever been in Africa, but it's not easy to get from one country to the next.
00:57:06
All the time.
00:57:07
It's whatever.
00:57:08
Nick, what's your passport?
00:57:09
We're in fastest Toyota.
00:57:10
So, I'm not the movies.
00:57:13
There's no black helicopters either.
00:57:15
Me and me on a street and flying with the embassy.
00:57:18
Can I say that?
00:57:19
Can I say the movie quote without you, like, you know, murdering me here real quick?
00:57:21
Can I say the movie quote without you, like, you know, murdering me here real quick?
00:57:22
Can I say the movie quote without you, like, you know, murdering me here real quick?
00:57:23
Can I say the movie quote without you, like, you know, murdering me here real quick?
00:57:24
No, I'm just hungry.
00:57:26
I'm a good late guy.
00:57:26
No legs.
00:57:27
I am decaptan now.
00:57:28
She's one shirt.
00:57:28
That's funny.
00:57:29
I get to name every year of my birthday.
00:57:31
It's awesome.
00:57:31
That was fun.
00:57:33
I got good friends.
00:57:35
I got the chocolate with 300 black.
00:57:37
It's hard to do.
00:57:41
It's hard to do.
00:57:42
It's like this.
00:57:43
It's really sweet.
00:57:45
He's all chuckered out over there.
00:57:47
It's not liquid.
00:57:49
So it takes me all day to get back to the embassy.
00:57:56
Get in there and get the debrief.
00:57:59
Luckily, the rest of my team, like six guys, or they're doing a brief.
00:58:04
I got my CCTV and my PJ guys with their brief in the main bridge because we're going to jump in, sit down, do the whole thing, and my boss at this point is like,
00:58:15
hey, all we need to do, or your job until everybody else gets there, is just keep capfilms in the boat out to sea.
00:58:21
Don't let them get the shore.
00:58:23
Because when they're out there, I have a self-contained little problem in a boat.
00:58:27
We know what we have.
00:58:28
It's control.
00:58:29
It's a little bit of variables, but it's very dealable or doable.
00:58:34
Or whatever you want to call English.
00:58:36
It's not my any other one of these.
00:58:37
I need another one of the captain.
00:58:38
Because I get this man on the track.
00:58:40
Yeah.
00:58:41
Yeah, whatever it is.
00:58:42
I'm like still in your white closet.
00:58:44
Yeah, fire it up there.
00:58:45
You're senior that.
00:58:47
Yes, we go over there.
00:58:48
We do the debriefs.
00:58:50
We get all the way back across there, jumping to jumping to playing fly the coast, get all our gear, parachutes, guns, all the stuff.
00:58:56
We jump in the airplane and we fly out.
00:58:59
At this point, it's April.
00:59:00
I think it's April.
00:59:02
So April and Indian notions.
00:59:03
There's a lot of thunderstorms.
00:59:05
So you just got down before it.
00:59:07
So then one of the number.
00:59:09
Well, there's a lot of rules I broke, but when the rules was in normal military free fall, you have to be able to see the DZ.
00:59:17
And when we're jumping into the water, I have to be able to see my ground crew.
00:59:21
So we're up there.
00:59:22
We're buzzing out.
00:59:23
And where are I like essentially the max range of what this aircraft will do?
00:59:27
Pilot comes on.
00:59:28
We do a couple of passes.
00:59:29
I get the sensor operators in the back and they're like, we can hear the guys on radio because we can we're talking to them.
00:59:35
We know they're here somewhere.
00:59:36
We just can't see them physically.
00:59:38
And then we're doing a pass pilot because on say, hey, we've we're about to go on fuel.
00:59:43
We probably didn't know the pass.
00:59:44
And then we got to come out.
00:59:46
We've got no other options.
00:59:48
And about that same time he's he's telling me that on radio clouds break a little bit.
00:59:52
I see a wake sensor operator swings it over a little bit.
00:59:56
And I just see the tail fan of the main bridge and like fucking and mats on the back.
01:00:00
We already got the green light to go because we know we're close.
01:00:03
I'm like, go.
01:00:05
So we just run out there as fast as we can to this guy dive in and everybody's safe and we made it to the boat.
01:00:11
What's the winds in that like you like 4500 feet or so?
01:00:15
Like we're low.
01:00:16
Oh, it's a hug.
01:00:17
It is a fucking puppet.
01:00:18
Like literally you're jumping up your pump.
01:00:20
Yeah.
01:00:21
Yeah.
01:00:21
Go down.
01:00:21
So I don't know what to do.
01:00:22
You'll get just for reference.
01:00:23
If you're doing this commercial, you're jumping at like 15 to 20 and you're almost got that.
01:00:28
Yeah.
01:00:29
And you're opening at 5,500 foot when he's saying you are jumping out and going to this.
01:00:35
Okay.
01:00:36
And we're in 2002 with that one.
01:00:38
What's that?
01:00:39
Was it stat like no?
01:00:40
This is free.
01:00:41
This is 1,000, 2,000 poles.
01:00:43
Yeah.
01:00:44
The starting core or the ranger is not shit.
01:00:47
Why do this is like you're jumping out the back.
01:00:51
You're not hitting this.
01:00:52
You're hitting this light in the media like.
01:00:54
Yeah.
01:00:55
It's one, two.
01:00:56
We pull everyone getting formation.
01:00:58
Holy you're jumping.
01:01:00
Terry, where'd you land?
01:01:01
In Indian Ocean.
01:01:02
No sharks.
01:01:04
No sharks.
01:01:05
What a land on the boat.
01:01:06
Why didn't you?
01:01:07
Because the boat hurts when you're skydiving.
01:01:10
The water is soft.
01:01:11
It's wet.
01:01:11
I like it.
01:01:12
I like the wet stuff.
01:01:14
The wet stuff is nice.
01:01:17
No, no.
01:01:18
I did.
01:01:19
Okay.
01:01:20
I'm terrified of the ocean because I watch a lot of documentaries.
01:01:23
You think middle of the goddamn night in a storm.
01:01:25
I'm going to land in the Indian Ocean.
01:01:28
How do your balls fit in your pants, sir?
01:01:32
Man, no.
01:01:32
No, you couldn't catch me.
01:01:33
No, I just myself.
01:01:34
Fuck it.
01:01:35
It's not a seal in the war.
01:01:36
It's not me.
01:01:37
You should run out.
01:01:39
You're a group.
01:01:39
I'm not doing it, man.
01:01:42
My name's Matt.
01:01:43
It's funny because again, like the rules that we maybe bent a little bit.
01:01:48
So I had two army guys that were with me in East Africa.
01:01:51
I chose not to take them and I get shit for it all the time from the admiral now and some of the army guys.
01:01:58
And my justification of time was these guys didn't have all the gear they needed.
01:02:04
We were jumping into the water at night.
01:02:06
They never jumped into the water at night.
01:02:07
They had never jumped into the water period.
01:02:10
It was stacking in our parachutes throughout the day.
01:02:14
There's a lot of stacking, compounding factors.
01:02:17
That's so good.
01:02:19
We're bending enough rules that I know the guys I've been training with.
01:02:22
We can solve the problem.
01:02:24
But now bringing in two guys that are unfamiliar with a lot of the stuff and the gear shortage and it just wasn't there.
01:02:31
So I got a lot of shit for that.
01:02:33
But I mean, it's probably the right call.
01:02:34
Like the last thing you want to have to worry about is trying to help from doing what we were doing.
01:02:39
The problem we were solving ahead.
01:02:41
Three other team guys, two other listed team guys, a J.O.
01:02:44
that's knew the command myself and two Air Force guys, the CCT and PJ.
01:02:49
So like, for what we're doing, like, just keep the boat from going to the beach as we were fine.
01:02:55
Yeah, I get shit from it.
01:02:56
But anyway, we get picked up, got on the main bridge.
01:03:00
And I'm going to east seven, I think at this time.
01:03:03
And Jonas is a no four brand of the command.
01:03:07
We climb up, good talk to the captain of the boat.
01:03:10
And he's like, okay, senior chief, what do you want to do?
01:03:15
I'm like, well, I don't know what we're going to keep the boat.
01:03:16
He's like, how do you want to do it?
01:03:18
Not realizing what he's asking.
01:03:20
He's like, I've been told that you are in command of this boat.
01:03:24
So Jonas and I are we're in command of the two naval assets are there.
01:03:28
So you're the captain now.
01:03:29
I was the captain.
01:03:31
And I quickly advocated that back to the captain.
01:03:34
I'm like, well, what would you do, sir?
01:03:37
He's like, I'd probably do this and that's pretty good idea.
01:03:41
I'll trust your judgment on this.
01:03:44
But I'm going to say, what would you do?
01:03:48
Yeah, I'm like, fire the Navy down so it's going to be fucked this thing.
01:03:52
Take the ocean.
01:03:54
Can you do that?
01:03:55
He tells you that you're like, how the fuck do I answer this?
01:04:01
I don't know.
01:04:02
I know nothing about a Navy ship.
01:04:05
And it's great.
01:04:07
And there's a lot of miserable.
01:04:07
I'm not a Canadian.
01:04:09
There's a whole the big tunicking and full of miserable dudes.
01:04:14
Yeah, I'm going to come right now.
01:04:16
I'm sorry.
01:04:16
You're going to be a meme on Reddit.
01:04:18
I don't go on Reddit, so it's fine.
01:04:25
We're going to love you for this.
01:04:29
We're going to mean the bulkhead.
01:04:31
It's not real.
01:04:33
It's not real people either.
01:04:35
That's the name of the podcast episode.
01:04:39
He's the captain now.
01:04:42
Don't even put my picture on the thumbnail.
01:04:45
Don't even put me on there.
01:04:46
So we, so we, so we commence to keep in a boat from going, going to shore and work through.
01:04:52
And it's my, we're talking, I probably shouldn't use names, but we believe it.
01:04:56
Well, we lost them in the extortion, so it doesn't really matter.
01:04:59
Awesome dude.
01:04:59
Awesome dude.
01:05:00
And all those guys are awesome, but off track now.
01:05:04
But anyway, so we, we got there.
01:05:06
We spent the next, I don't know, felt like three days, like doing it.
01:05:10
It was probably like a cycle of darkness, but we got there tonight.
01:05:14
We're, we got the ship.
01:05:15
We're, we're moving around.
01:05:16
We're essentially playing cat and mouse.
01:05:18
It's like, I'll use these big ass fucking eight six bullets.
01:05:21
So this will be good.
01:05:24
Can't see it here.
01:05:26
That'll be the lifeboat.
01:05:27
And then this will be the big ship.
01:05:29
All we're doing is like keeping them pushed out to sea.
01:05:32
They go around us and come back around.
01:05:34
We would move the boat around and just keep, keep them to our, it was a starboard side at that point.
01:05:39
Just keep them out to sea.
01:05:41
Just keep working around.
01:05:42
Slow down and we would spin back around like this.
01:05:45
That's it.
01:05:46
Is that one of you guys bottle breach your things?
01:05:48
It's not mine, but.
01:05:50
Oh, yeah.
01:05:51
Crane.
01:05:52
Oh, no, we actually thought it was the like cranes.
01:05:54
It's like, it's knock off.
01:05:55
I always out.
01:05:57
Do you like also really good?
01:05:58
Yeah.
01:05:58
I kept doing this, kept doing this.
01:06:00
Now we're in the daylight.
01:06:01
They're getting pissed off.
01:06:03
They're out of caught because they chew the cod all the shit all the time.
01:06:06
They're out of caught.
01:06:07
They're running out of gas.
01:06:08
They're getting pissed off.
01:06:09
And at the same time, we're talking to our negotiator in New York, the JTTF guys.
01:06:15
They're talking to the tribal leadership on the beach doing all this negotiation.
01:06:20
Like, hey, we just want to get them back.
01:06:22
I don't give about the boat or whatever else you guys can go do, whatever you want to do.
01:06:26
It's working this and throughout that course of day, maybe that, yeah, the later that day.
01:06:32
Like they're out of caught and they're batters are running, running low on their, on their radios.
01:06:37
So we work through the negotiator like, hey, well, let's just resupply you.
01:06:40
We don't have cop, but we could bring cigarettes, new batteries, all that shit.
01:06:44
We're like, okay, we'll do that.
01:06:46
So my team, we dress up in a little blue.
01:06:49
A cover all navy, not dung goes because they weren't done with that point.
01:06:53
But we'll blue cover all shove our shit down in the corners of the boat.
01:06:56
And we're just like easing up to the back of the boat because we don't know where Captain Phillips is.
01:07:01
This is post him jumping out of the boat, trying to get away at night.
01:07:05
So they've got him in there somewhere.
01:07:07
We don't know where he's at.
01:07:08
So as we pull up, they crack the thing and come out there, I'll tie it up their eyeballs or a blood shot.
01:07:13
So an open door, he comes out, get the boat, we're talking to him, we're easing up.
01:07:17
And then from my position in the rib, I can see Captain Phillips on the front left side of the boat.
01:07:22
He's like regular taped or flex cuff to the boat or to the seat, like, okay, perfect.
01:07:27
They're not going to untie him to do whatever.
01:07:29
So I know where we're doing, where he's at.
01:07:33
And this is super sweet because as we go up there, and we're talking to those guys, and then we tell Captain, like, hey, Captain, hey, the guy's from Virginia Beach are here.
01:07:43
And like his demeanor just shifted.
01:07:45
Like he understood with all the stress that he was going through, like, what that meant.
01:07:50
So it's super cool.
01:07:51
We did this.
01:07:52
Pass it off.
01:07:53
We fly around.
01:07:54
We use the helicopters to kind of keep the boat and all the stuff that I don't even know if the helicopters are in a movie.
01:07:59
But so we launch helicopters that kind of keep them pushed out for a little bit.
01:08:03
I actually don't think the helicopters were.
01:08:06
I've never actually seen the entire movie.
01:08:08
So somebody in the down below just correct us on that on the movie.
01:08:12
Thank you.
01:08:13
Like, subscribe, hit that bell notification.
01:08:15
Yeah, all that stuff.
01:08:16
All that stuff.
01:08:19
So then later that night, you know, the cavalry shows up.
01:08:24
So the other squadron shows up.
01:08:25
And it's funny because I know I've been there long enough.
01:08:28
I know what's happening.
01:08:29
Like they deployed everybody to come do our first at sea hostage rescue.
01:08:35
That exactly why we are who we are.
01:08:39
And Captain calls me.
01:08:40
He's like, hey, so how's it going there?
01:08:42
I give him the debriefing.
01:08:43
It's like, OK, cool.
01:08:44
It's like, what do you need?
01:08:45
I'm like, out in my back of my mind.
01:08:47
Like they're taken over.
01:08:49
But I'm like, I'm going to pull one.
01:08:51
I'm like, you know, he sent me like six snipers.
01:08:53
I think we got it fairly under control.
01:08:55
And we'll just we'll we'll be done with this by the morning.
01:08:58
He's just laughing.
01:08:59
But he's like, yeah.
01:09:01
OK, Terry, that's cool.
01:09:02
But we're we're sending a true plus.
01:09:04
And they're taking.
01:09:05
I knew they were about like, I want shot.
01:09:07
I'm going to see like staying charged this thing.
01:09:09
But they they came over later at night.
01:09:12
We debriefed them.
01:09:13
Gave them the video told them exactly what, you know, all the stuff like what it's going on.
01:09:17
And at this point, my guy's been up for a while.
01:09:20
So we're like, OK, let's go.
01:09:22
These guys here.
01:09:22
They have it.
01:09:23
They're taking that whatever else down our gear.
01:09:27
I don't know how long I'm asleep.
01:09:29
Not not long to use that kind of like wonder what the fuck's going on?
01:09:34
Go by and as I'm walking through the little back area, like curious stage.
01:09:38
I'm like, I don't see anybody.
01:09:39
There's like nobody's in there.
01:09:40
I'm like, what the fuck's going on?
01:09:41
So I can just happen to grab my nods in my helmet and my gun.
01:09:44
I'm like, just natural, I guess at this point.
01:09:47
Go out to the fan tail and everybody's lined up.
01:09:49
And the boats undertow and it's dark out and like, I see these guys laying down.
01:09:55
And my buddies that he's the true true chief for the sniper guys.
01:10:00
Like, oh, perfect timing.
01:10:01
We need once you jump in here with this guy, you that we two guys per at this point.
01:10:06
We'd already pulled one of those one of those guys off the stab himself.
01:10:09
So we got three three pirates cap Phillips boats undertow.
01:10:13
It's a night.
01:10:14
And like everybody's online.
01:10:15
It's like, OK, what do we do?
01:10:17
Well, they're just like playing pop a whistle.
01:10:19
We get one up and two up and one will go down.
01:10:21
And another one comes is just like this whack them all shit.
01:10:24
It's like if we ever get them like all three, when we left Africa, that was the or we jumped in.
01:10:29
It was our kind of our our ways.
01:10:31
Like if you can guarantee 100% that you could solve the problem, you guys could solve the problem.
01:10:36
So I lay down and I'm probably not very long there.
01:10:39
And it's like all of a sudden, like, this guy's up.
01:10:41
That guy's up.
01:10:41
That guy's up.
01:10:42
Everybody checks in like we're good, right?
01:10:47
All right, three, two, one.
01:10:47
Boom.
01:10:47
Problem solved.
01:10:48
Guy's slide for life down in there.
01:10:50
Rest he's captain Phillips and the rest is a movie.
01:10:53
Holy fuck.
01:10:55
Fuck.
01:10:56
Cause I probably died.
01:10:57
It's funny to get.
01:10:58
It's funny to get in here.
01:11:01
And your entire fan base just can be.
01:11:03
Bro, that was the client.
01:11:05
Yeah.
01:11:05
On top of his band.
01:11:06
Yeah.
01:11:07
It's funny because I'm like, I just happened to wake up.
01:11:09
I'm like, I wonder what the fuck's going on.
01:11:10
I'm like, I better grab my gun just in case for what I'm gonna.
01:11:13
But what do I need my gun?
01:11:15
I just happened luckily showed up at the right time.
01:11:18
And they had just like sure.
01:11:20
Oh, you got some pirates.
01:11:23
But I mean, yeah, everybody there was awesome.
01:11:26
And I'll probably get shit.
01:11:27
Cause like, oh, fuck, we were there.
01:11:29
And it's funny because.
01:11:31
On our side of it internally to us, like.
01:11:33
The squadron shows up never wants to admit that we were there before though.
01:11:38
So like all the, all the different stuff is no mention of us or anything else.
01:11:43
I love how you're so good at your job that you just kind of like casually glossed over the whole.
01:11:48
Three shots on three different people on a moving boat to another moving boat.
01:11:53
And the problem was solved.
01:11:55
Oh, yeah.
01:11:56
That's a lot of variables for one.
01:11:58
We trained for that.
01:12:00
I mean, we trained it.
01:12:01
And we learned it so years like we trained at such a high level that.
01:12:04
No matter what happens on target or whatever is whatever is going on.
01:12:08
It's less than what we trained to.
01:12:10
So it's like, oh, not very stressful.
01:12:12
Like, okay, laser.
01:12:13
Or is it fucking night?
01:12:14
You know, I'll just hold laser on his head and say.
01:12:17
Hey guys, ready?
01:12:18
Okay.
01:12:18
Yeah, let's go.
01:12:19
How far of the shot was it?
01:12:20
I mean, you're a guest.
01:12:23
I've drank a lot since then.
01:12:25
So somewhere in that 50 to 75, maybe.
01:12:28
Still a good shot like that night.
01:12:31
It wasn't like, I like how you down yesterday.
01:12:35
You're now going to look at it and you could hit that.
01:12:37
It's like.
01:12:39
Scan and pistachio.
01:12:42
It's off.
01:12:44
I mean, it has clothes.
01:12:46
Yeah, it wasn't a difficult shot at all.
01:12:48
And that's what we train.
01:12:49
We train that shit all the time.
01:12:50
Says like three, two, one, execute and done.
01:12:54
Dude, that is.
01:12:56
The fuck?
01:12:59
When you bring up Jessica.
01:13:02
Thousand yard shot.
01:13:04
Look at 2,500 meters there, Canadians.
01:13:07
The wind was 45 miles per hour in a tsunami uphill both ways.
01:13:12
Terry had just left the boat because the way it hits.
01:13:16
I was a captain of those shots.
01:13:19
It's serious.
01:13:21
The gun's on the fucking.
01:13:24
We're going to re we're going to have it animated like like a nightmare.
01:13:28
The night before Christmas with Uncle Scrooge is grabbing a candle.
01:13:33
But it's Terry with his knots.
01:13:36
Oh my god.
01:13:39
You make that shirt send me one.
01:13:43
Holy shit.
01:13:45
But it's, I mean, it's awesome because that's exactly what we train to do.
01:13:49
At the command I was at and had an opportunity to be there.
01:13:52
And I was just happy to be luckily enough that I was there with my guys.
01:13:56
And it just happened to be from, well, from day one, even before we jumped in.
01:14:00
It's like, it could have been anybody.
01:14:03
I just got lucky.
01:14:05
It was my team.
01:14:07
Yeah.
01:14:08
100%.
01:14:09
You guys made that effort.
01:14:10
And then you met Tom Cruise when you saved him.
01:14:12
Yeah.
01:14:13
Wilson Wilson is awesome.
01:14:14
Yeah.
01:14:15
Yeah.
01:14:16
Then he heard the noise.
01:14:22
Then everybody clapped.
01:14:24
It was like a fruit company.
01:14:27
You don't have to worry about money anymore.
01:14:29
The box of chocolates was all good.
01:14:31
It was cool because after all the debrief and everything else, we had to go back to Africa.
01:14:36
We jumped back on the main bridge.
01:14:38
And then he goes with us because he's got to back get debriefed and then fly home.
01:14:42
So I spent the next day or so with him.
01:14:44
And he's all rigged out right.
01:14:46
So we're playing monopoly.
01:14:47
I'm like, he's like, oh, just like just having a conversation is hanging because I know he's fucked up.
01:14:52
I already been on that deployments.
01:14:53
I know like stress level.
01:14:54
Like, where is that?
01:14:55
He's like trying to let him get the blue hotel.
01:14:58
He's like, I know what PTSD looks like.
01:15:02
That's such a crap stuff.
01:15:03
I don't want to put him jail.
01:15:04
How did it go?
01:15:05
How did it just end up?
01:15:07
I'm just, I'm so curious about how that train of thought like he went through a traumatic experience.
01:15:15
Like his life has changed forever.
01:15:16
You can tell the dude's fucked up and you're like, monopoly.
01:15:19
I'm still going to be the race car.
01:15:21
That's it.
01:15:22
That's all you get in there.
01:15:25
All it was is like, keep his mind off it and let him just, we're just talking.
01:15:31
We're just like two dudes hanging out and talking through and then my guys are cycling and spend some time with him.
01:15:36
And I got him on the phone with the psychic back home and working through some stuff just to.
01:15:40
But was there.
01:15:41
So we get him back and he goes home.
01:15:43
And then I two months later we got our still reading and he shows up with his wife and I'm there with my wife and my kids and they all get.
01:15:49
Go hang out with kept Phillips and we're like old buddy or we're with it and I haven't talked to him since then, but.
01:15:54
It was cool because he got to come back and meet all the other like community around what we do.
01:16:01
So I thought you said so much horrifying psychologist.
01:16:05
I've ever met Terry holy shit.
01:16:07
Dude, I am just like.
01:16:10
I didn't even know about the lynch thing.
01:16:13
Yeah.
01:16:14
Talk to some guys who were on the other side of that because it was an air defense unit.
01:16:19
So I'm an air defender.
01:16:20
That's what she was part of.
01:16:22
She's part of some lot five with her logic or what?
01:16:25
Well, they were just a group.
01:16:27
Yeah, they were, but they were, they were with one of the air defense units.
01:16:31
But one of the guys who teaches at the Thad Schoolhouse was part of her unit and was there.
01:16:35
But apparently there was something happened.
01:16:38
Obviously that they got off on their own and everyone else in the Conway went one way.
01:16:42
And kept them going in her and everybody else with the other way.
01:16:45
And that's how they got ambushed with the convoy split.
01:16:48
It split because all the dust kicked up somewhere.
01:16:50
And he was telling me about it.
01:16:51
And it's funny because like looking back and understanding what happened there.
01:16:55
Just like the WMDs, right?
01:16:57
Like, oh, there's WMDs everywhere.
01:16:59
And you go like, where the fuck are they?
01:17:01
Same thing with her.
01:17:02
Like there's 415 fucking fighters and each go to the hospital.
01:17:05
And there's there's remnants of them being there.
01:17:07
And there's planting cells and all the stuff that they weren't there.
01:17:10
So we plan for what we knew at the time.
01:17:13
Not the story that we got the same thing with.
01:17:16
Like, her getting an accident and people getting killed.
01:17:20
Like it's the story that the administration put out with the best knowledge they had at the time was not actually what happened.
01:17:26
What?
01:17:27
And she went on to, I think she was on Andy's, Andy Stump's podcast and kind of like her perspective.
01:17:33
What did she knew happened?
01:17:35
Like when we went in there, it was, we went in early.
01:17:41
The wrecking team.
01:17:42
They flew us in and we're like living in the fog with Marines.
01:17:45
And this first time I met a Marine one star in the city desert of Iraq.
01:17:52
Sand blowing.
01:17:53
Living out of a tent underneath the vehicle.
01:17:56
Like in a junkyard.
01:17:58
Launching houses we get out of the humvee and there's a one star in general there.
01:18:05
Like, who the fuck is like, this is my unit.
01:18:07
We're killing dudes.
01:18:08
The heart and I were in general.
01:18:11
I fucking love you guys.
01:18:14
And we base everything for her off of just human.
01:18:19
Like we don't have ISR.
01:18:21
We don't have cigarette or anything.
01:18:23
It's like.
01:18:24
People coming in and saying, hey, I saw this or I saw this.
01:18:27
And it's fun.
01:18:28
I got to get a picture to her.
01:18:30
I don't know her, but because we drove by that room.
01:18:34
In that podcast, she talked about me in a little building by herself for like 12 hours.
01:18:39
We drove by that building because we heard something was there.
01:18:43
There's nothing going on.
01:18:45
We're like, ah, that must not be the right one.
01:18:48
So I got to get her that picture that building.
01:18:50
But she most likely was there when we drove by herself.
01:18:53
So we could just hide that.
01:18:56
Man, I mean, it's, it is what, I mean, we didn't know anything.
01:18:59
No, that's what's wild about that time.
01:19:01
It's framing those humans, human to tell.
01:19:03
And it's like, who's special there?
01:19:06
Like, special in Afghanistan.
01:19:07
Like, I don't like you.
01:19:08
So I'm going to make up some story about how much of a terrorist you are.
01:19:11
And agency is going to give me a bunch of money.
01:19:13
And my friends are going to come kill you.
01:19:15
Like, Mr.
01:19:15
Mist of this is very good neighborhood.
01:19:18
It's like ID's everywhere.
01:19:20
So it's like very unreliable and it's like single source.
01:19:23
Like the worst kind of stuff.
01:19:24
So it's like, well, it doesn't look like anything.
01:19:26
Air will just keep on looking.
01:19:28
And that's which led, you know, the doctor kind of led us to the hospital.
01:19:31
And it all worked because we hooked him up with the camera.
01:19:33
And we, yeah, now we know what's going on.
01:19:36
No shit.
01:19:38
So you made a human ISR.
01:19:42
You said you hooked him up with the camera.
01:19:44
So like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:46
You know, I'm sorry.
01:19:50
You're a drone man.
01:19:52
Just go here now.
01:19:54
Just go with the building.
01:19:56
It's not a gay guy.
01:19:58
It was from us.
01:20:00
Getting air mailed off the building.
01:20:02
I'm sorry that I had to explain this to everyone here.
01:20:04
I was like, puzzle wood.
01:20:05
Just go ahead and cut out.
01:20:06
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you were leaving it.
01:20:09
It doesn't change that then for sure.
01:20:11
You actually, uh, for the podcast, you trained up on a new.
01:20:17
I did.
01:20:18
I did.
01:20:19
And he was so excited.
01:20:20
What the fuck, carry on.
01:20:21
I was so excited.
01:20:22
I was going to talk about it.
01:20:23
Yeah, I'm super comfortable here.
01:20:24
We have to say that.
01:20:25
I'll carry this for you.
01:20:26
Yeah, of course.
01:20:27
I've got to match it.
01:20:28
Tell somebody.
01:20:29
And how many people did you say?
01:20:30
And everyone's just going to fast forward.
01:20:31
Fast forward.
01:20:32
Tell Terry starts talking.
01:20:34
I love bombs.
01:20:35
They're awesome.
01:20:36
So everyone here, I assume everyone here is familiar with the bat bomb, right?
01:20:40
From World War Two that we say you're not.
01:20:42
What do we say bat bomb?
01:20:44
The bat bomb.
01:20:45
Oh, you can teach him because mine's not the bat bomb.
01:20:47
Here we go.
01:20:48
America weaponizes everything.
01:20:49
I really love this.
01:20:50
Yeah, I love it.
01:20:51
I love it.
01:20:52
And World War Two.
01:20:53
Ted Dev started again.
01:20:54
Tell you we're talking about the bat bomb.
01:20:57
I didn't know I was like one of the foremost leading experts on this on accident.
01:21:07
So in World War Two, they had this really unique problem.
01:21:12
They had all these different programs trying to develop essentially a weapon of mass destruction at the time.
01:21:17
You had the Manhattan project over here.
01:21:19
And then you had this other extra curricular project where we were going to strap napalm bombs to bats.
01:21:26
Oh, fuck, I'm in because the Japanese lived in houses made out of paper and wood.
01:21:32
So there was genius.
01:21:34
There was a dentist from Kentucky who was also a part-time inventor.
01:21:38
He had previously invented a fried chicken vending machine.
01:21:42
Clearly genius.
01:21:44
Why am I first hearing about frying chicken vending machine?
01:21:47
I got you.
01:21:48
We were living in the future back then, man.
01:21:50
We got to go back to 35 of you.
01:21:52
We have so digress.
01:21:55
So he gets this idea of like this is going to be brilliant.
01:22:00
We're going to strap incendiary grenades to bats.
01:22:03
And then we're going to drop them off over Japan right before dawn.
01:22:07
And the bats are going to go and they're going to roost in addicts in any nook and crevice that they can possibly find.
01:22:13
And then two hours later, the incendiary grenades are going to light up and it's going to light the whole fucking city on fire and burn that bitch to the ground.
01:22:20
So he writes this down in a letter and sends it to the government.
01:22:25
Never would have made it anywhere.
01:22:27
But this dude just happened to know FDR's wife.
01:22:32
Sends it directly to the first lady.
01:22:35
She gives it to her husband and her husband forwards the letter to military intelligence.
01:22:42
I don't I can't remember the exact quote, but it's something along the lines of him telling his generals.
01:22:49
This is not a madman.
01:22:50
I think he's got a perfectly good idea we should look into it.
01:22:54
So they start developing bat bombs.
01:23:02
They end up harvesting thousands of Mexican free-tailed bats from a cave right outside of San Antonio.
01:23:02
There's just thousands of these motherfuckers because they were the best bats that we could find.
01:23:06
Apparently they make up a bomb that essentially looks like a large call under that when you drop it, it just kind of like opens up and all the bats fly all over the fucking place.
01:23:18
And they go to test it and so intrigued right now.
01:23:25
So they they go to test it on this airfield out in the middle of the Nevada desert.
01:23:31
And the army is running the program at this point in time and they drop all these bats off.
01:23:35
And they're like bad news.
01:23:38
We forgot we forgot to take the fuses out of the incendiary bombs.
01:23:43
So they almost burned the entire airfield to the ground and blew up the general's fucking car.
01:23:48
So the army is like, I'm out, I want nothing to do with it.
01:23:52
It works.
01:23:53
It's like proof of concept, right?
01:23:54
There was one marine general that heard about it and just fucking showed up uninvited.
01:23:59
And he's like, this is dope.
01:24:01
So he assumes control of the program.
01:24:04
I love Marines.
01:24:06
Dude, yeah.
01:24:07
I did a whole video on it, but like literally if we if the Manhattan Project wasn't done in time and we resorted to bat bombs, it would have been like 12 times deadlier than the atomic bomb was just because it would have.
01:24:21
Like we killed more people in incendiary bombings in Japan than the atomic bombs did.
01:24:25
You think of like the psychological factor like bats flying with bombs like the drone stuff now.
01:24:31
And here's the thing they wouldn't even know it was bats because it was literally just like they.
01:24:37
Literally just being the whole city or town would burst into flames and dawn that is.
01:24:42
So horrifying.
01:24:43
Holy shit.
01:24:44
He's a fire.
01:24:45
I was just in terror after that moment.
01:24:50
There was a program that actually predated that and it showed some promise.
01:24:54
And this is the one that I found out about.
01:24:56
And it was originally it was called Operation Pigeon and then it was changed to Operation Orgon which stands for organic control.
01:25:05
What they did.
01:25:07
America weaponized everything we created GPS before GPS.
01:25:10
So what they would do is they built a bomb.
01:25:13
And the explosive was in the middle of the bomb, but in the nose they would have one to three pigeons that had three pigeons.
01:25:21
And they would teach these pigeons they would show them like a picture of a of a target and every time they would see the picture they would get like a grain or something like that.
01:25:35
If they pecked at it.
01:25:36
So at least a pellet.
01:25:37
Yeah.
01:25:38
And eventually they trained these things one of them like pecked like 10,000 times in 45 minutes.
01:25:42
And what they would do is steer the bomb on to target as it was falling out of the air.
01:25:48
So they were using pigeons to create glide bombs.
01:25:52
This is a real thing America did.
01:25:54
They had the three pigeons were averaged out amongst the three.
01:25:58
So they would average out where the pecking was to calculate the best out of the three.
01:26:03
It was literally pigeon democracy on who we were going to fuck with the bomb.
01:26:06
I'm not going back to boot camp that I wanted this program.
01:26:10
Resurrected.
01:26:11
Yeah.
01:26:18
You can see the video footage like they recorded this of the pigeons pecking at targets.
01:26:22
It was like actually highly effective.
01:26:24
Yeah.
01:26:25
It showed real promise.
01:26:26
Like there was a guy who was a behavioral scientist who like came up with the concept.
01:26:30
It was like, no, no, we can use pigeons.
01:26:32
And it was pretty effective.
01:26:34
And I don't I didn't get to why they canceled the program.
01:26:37
Maybe you did.
01:26:38
But I said that it eventually moved on to the bat bomb.
01:26:41
And then of course, the Manhattan project.
01:26:42
I did a video.
01:26:43
I forget why they canceled that program.
01:26:44
They brought it back after World War II for something else.
01:26:47
And then they just microchips caught up.
01:26:49
And we went to guidance that way.
01:26:50
Yeah.
01:26:51
It's really hard to make money off pigeons.
01:26:53
Yeah.
01:26:54
And Mike Tyson was going to be pissed.
01:26:55
I mean.
01:26:56
Now.
01:26:57
I don't know what to do.
01:26:58
I'm just going to hit us so we can't slip.
01:27:03
Yeah.
01:27:04
So that was the one that I learned about.
01:27:05
I was like, we made a pigeon bomb.
01:27:07
Like we.
01:27:08
Yeah.
01:27:09
It was just I googled.
01:27:10
I got bored.
01:27:11
And I was like, weird missiles.
01:27:12
And like that.
01:27:13
All the rest of them I've already talked about.
01:27:14
So that was the only one I was like, huh.
01:27:16
So then I started googling pigeon bomb.
01:27:18
And I was like, well, let's see what this thing is all about.
01:27:20
Yeah.
01:27:21
I learned about the pigeon.
01:27:22
That's something you want to do on your work computer.
01:27:23
No.
01:27:24
No.
01:27:25
Well, I mean, for me, though, being in the missile space, they probably like, nah, he's doing research.
01:27:29
And then he's fine.
01:27:30
He's okay.
01:27:31
Yeah.
01:27:32
Dude, holy shit.
01:27:34
I love it.
01:27:35
These are always my favorite is like, hey, we're learning all new time across the board.
01:27:40
This is facts from you to you.
01:27:42
I'm just like, holy shit.
01:27:44
If it exists, America either has or will weaponize it.
01:27:47
At one point in time.
01:27:48
Like it's, it's, we tried everything.
01:27:51
We've done the last podcast I was on.
01:27:53
I was explaining all the things that we've made nuclear.
01:27:55
Literally everything you can think of.
01:27:57
America's made it nuclear from artillery to rocket launchers.
01:28:02
And Britain did the, uh, Britain made the nuclear chicken powered landmine.
01:28:07
That what I didn't know about.
01:28:09
Huh?
01:28:10
Yeah.
01:28:11
Great Britain made a chicken powered nuclear landmines on.
01:28:13
Yeah, to open up way more.
01:28:15
I had a contract that I have.
01:28:17
There's a line in the same.
01:28:19
Terry, do you know about this?
01:28:21
No.
01:28:22
I'm not familiar with the foul landmines.
01:28:25
Well, this old rocket.
01:28:27
Watch out.
01:28:28
Watch out.
01:28:29
It makes a really big boom.
01:28:30
Anything.
01:28:31
Anything bird related.
01:28:32
I'm not familiar with.
01:28:33
Well, just so happens.
01:28:34
I'm an expert on aviation ordinance, apparently.
01:28:37
Avian.
01:28:38
Um, yeah, great Britain was like, I mean, we, we got to stop the Soviets if they come rolling in with fucking tanks.
01:28:44
Um, we, we made a nuclear landmine.
01:28:46
The problem is is that the tech is kind of faulty.
01:28:50
You know, like we don't just want to, you know, have it short out, be in cold and wet underground.
01:28:55
If we bury it and randomly having a nuclear explosion go off.
01:28:58
So what the fuck are we going to do?
01:28:59
So they basically, they came up the plan.
01:29:01
We're just going to dig the holes.
01:29:02
We're going to have the landmines there.
01:29:04
Ready.
01:29:05
We're going to keep them nice dry, safe out of, out of the ground.
01:29:08
And then if the Soviets come rolling up, we're going to throw them in the ground.
01:29:11
And then they're just going to be on a delay.
01:29:13
But it wasn't close enough.
01:29:15
Like it would still, there was a.
01:29:19
An air possibility that was, it was too great.
01:29:23
So like we got to figure out a way to keep this warm.
01:29:25
And when we can't have like a generator running to have power down there.
01:29:28
Batteries weren't good enough at the time.
01:29:30
So they're like, I mean, what if we just put chickens inside that motherfucker and kept him warm with body heat.
01:29:36
And then when the chickens died, the bomb goes off.
01:29:39
So they just figured out how long a chicken could survive inside before it suffocated to death.
01:29:44
And the body went cold.
01:29:45
And that was the timer.
01:29:46
That was the trigger for a nuclear landmine.
01:29:49
I'm not sure I mean, I'm on board with that one.
01:29:51
Yeah, that seems a little.
01:29:52
They weren't either.
01:29:53
I'm sorry not to do it.
01:29:55
I don't know the nuclear landmine now.
01:29:59
It's a little.
01:30:00
It's a giant landmine.
01:30:02
It's a centenary bath.
01:30:04
That's awesome.
01:30:05
Yeah.
01:30:06
You draw the wine at nuclear chickens.
01:30:08
Nuclear cocks are not what I want to get.
01:30:10
Are you familiar with the atomic artillery?
01:30:13
Atomic Annie?
01:30:14
I think so.
01:30:15
Okay.
01:30:16
It's been me.
01:30:17
Wait, let's just spin you up.
01:30:18
Do you have a big sandwich?
01:30:19
Let me crack it.
01:30:20
It's a handheld.
01:30:21
Oh, man.
01:30:22
Dude.
01:30:23
Do you like history?
01:30:24
Oh, dude.
01:30:25
I'm fascinated by stuff like this when guys are like deep dive into subjects.
01:30:31
Have you ever been a fat electrician?
01:30:33
I did.
01:30:34
Just.
01:30:35
Oh, dude.
01:30:36
You're going to go through his videos.
01:30:38
Like Nick is one of the few content creators for you.
01:30:41
It's like.
01:30:42
You're just.
01:30:43
You're hooked.
01:30:44
And it's like, okay, well, 40 to an hour of my life is now locked in.
01:30:50
I'm just going to come down out of Iowa and we're just going to like sit and drink and talk.
01:30:54
Right.
01:30:55
Fucking bombs or whatever.
01:30:56
I got one of the best trick shot guys in the country.
01:30:58
30 minutes from my house.
01:30:59
We got a little gun show for pepper box.
01:31:01
You can come out and you can show us how to shoot.
01:31:02
We'll do all kinds of trick shit.
01:31:04
You know, Kevin, you can come bring all your cool guns.
01:31:07
They'll be great time.
01:31:08
Yeah.
01:31:09
But no one ever you want.
01:31:10
But the Davy Crockett is.
01:31:13
It's a recoilless rifle that shot a 55 pound atomic warhead.
01:31:19
And it was mounted to a Jeep.
01:31:21
So the strategy was literally roll up in a Jeep, plant that bitch, fire it and drive as fast as you can.
01:31:28
But the operators realize that they weren't in the safe radius.
01:31:31
So they were just like, what is my question?
01:31:33
We're just going to fire it while moving and keep going.
01:31:37
Yeah.
01:31:38
Yeah.
01:31:39
So that's one.
01:31:40
But then you have a atomic artillery, nuclear artillery, atomic Annie.
01:31:44
And there's videos of it.
01:31:46
It's from 29 miles away and it hits and you're like, oh, that wasn't that big.
01:31:51
And then the fucking screen just goes white for four seconds.
01:31:55
It's the biggest explosion you've seen.
01:31:57
And for it still actually took a picture in front of it.
01:32:00
Yeah, for him.
01:32:01
So that was the right one now.
01:32:03
Yes.
01:32:04
My favorite part of that story is they made three of them.
01:32:07
They fucking lost one for like 30 years.
01:32:10
And forgot or like didn't know where the fuck it was.
01:32:14
That's it off the checklist.
01:32:16
Well, they thought they find it later.
01:32:19
I was like, I'm going to just scribble it in.
01:32:21
That's a.
01:32:23
Yeah.
01:32:24
So many.
01:32:25
I don't know.
01:32:26
Where's that?
01:32:27
I don't know.
01:32:28
I'm not doing hands across for it.
01:32:29
We was today.
01:32:30
We're just going to say it's good.
01:32:32
Well, they did.
01:32:33
They thought the one that was on display was the actual atomic Annie, which was the only one that was ever actually fired.
01:32:40
At some point, somebody got sent out to check the serial numbers and they didn't in match in like the 80s.
01:32:47
Like 30 years after the is.
01:32:49
Could you imagine being the E4 just on profile for being a shit?
01:32:54
Go check the serial numbers on all the shit in the museum.
01:32:57
And then they didn't match.
01:32:58
How many times do you think you read that number?
01:33:00
Like, bro, he had to sit there all fucking it.
01:33:02
Like there's.
01:33:03
I would come over it.
01:33:04
There's no way that's not the number, right?
01:33:06
I would have literally just like, yep.
01:33:09
This thing weighs a hundred tons.
01:33:10
How the fuck did it get swapped?
01:33:12
I wouldn't have scratched it.
01:33:13
Whatever.
01:33:14
Remember, scratch it out.
01:33:15
And wrote those bitches in.
01:33:17
This is what it is now.
01:33:19
Turn over time.
01:33:20
You're in charge.
01:33:21
Not happening.
01:33:22
There's the atomic Annie.
01:33:24
And then for air defense, we've made air defense missiles because during the Cold War, our theory was that if the Russians had a whole bunch of planes or bombs coming at us, you could just fire one missile.
01:33:35
So we built the Nike Hercules.
01:33:38
And then the Nike Zeus.
01:33:41
And then the Nike Spartan.
01:33:42
Those are all nuclear.
01:33:43
And then we built the Sprint.
01:33:44
We got an air.
01:33:45
Yep.
01:33:46
Surface air.
01:33:47
And then we also built the Sprint missile.
01:33:48
Yeah, they're all Nike.
01:33:49
The Sprint missile, which was America was like, how fast do we want a missile to go?
01:33:52
As fast as you can fucking make it.
01:33:54
And it did mock ten under ten seconds in 1964.
01:33:58
Like they had to put explosives on the door on top because they couldn't build a mechanism to open the blast door fast enough to let the missile out.
01:34:04
So they just like had C4 and they're just like, we're going to blow the doors open.
01:34:07
This missile's gone.
01:34:09
Like it would start glowing as it's going through the air because like it was combusting as it's ripping through the air.
01:34:15
That's awesome.
01:34:16
It's America builds such cool stuff.
01:34:18
And it's like our solution every time is like explode it to open you.
01:34:22
And we bring the Department of Defense back to like the '60s.
01:34:25
I'm telling you.
01:34:26
You made yourself some shit again.
01:34:27
You ever heard about like, do you know about Operation Chromedown?
01:34:29
Oh, I love Operation Chromedown.
01:34:31
Great one.
01:34:32
Oh, fuck down.
01:34:33
There is some interesting after Chromedown.
01:34:38
There is some interesting air defense news that I can actually go over with you guys.
01:34:41
Some newer stuff.
01:34:42
So we'll jump out of history.
01:34:43
I'll go to some newer stuff.
01:34:44
But you don't go for them.
01:34:45
Chromedown was literally just they were putting up multiple B-52s.
01:34:49
For like, was it 15 years?
01:34:51
Yes.
01:34:52
It was like 15 years.
01:34:53
Because it's causing flight.
01:34:55
Yeah, the constant flight because the theory was like if they launched an intercontinental ballistic missile and they theoretically they have the capability to take out every American airfield.
01:35:03
So we're not going to be able to retaliate.
01:35:05
So the only logical thing to do is to have multiple B-52s with nuclear ordinance doing hot laps around the entire continental United States and Canada 24/7 for 15 fucking years straight.
01:35:16
Holy shit.
01:35:17
And if they ended up launching nukes, they're like, cool, beeline straight to Russia.
01:35:21
Return the favor.
01:35:22
Yeah.
01:35:23
That was the plan the entire time.
01:35:24
And that's where it sounds American.
01:35:26
There was multiple times where like a B-52 went down causing a nuclear incident.
01:35:31
Like we dropped him in Greenland.
01:35:33
And we dropped him all over the way.
01:35:34
There was one where God it was the one that I did with Brandon over.
01:35:38
I think it was Greenland or Denmark.
01:35:41
We've had a couple in the United States.
01:35:43
There's North Carolina.
01:35:44
North Carolina.
01:35:45
North Carolina.
01:35:46
But like this, the one that like really fucked up and like people got radiated was really bad was the one of the B-52 pilots.
01:35:54
Like it's fucking cold in here.
01:35:55
I'm just going to open the exhaust vent directly from the engine bay and caught the upholstery of the cockpit on fire and burned the fucking plane down from the inside.
01:36:04
And they had to bail out and ditch nukes in the ocean.
01:36:08
And they like weren't supposed to be in that area at the time.
01:36:11
And Denmark is like, what the fuck are Greenland?
01:36:14
We're the fuck.
01:36:15
I don't know.
01:36:16
I don't know.
01:36:17
You're not supposed to be here.
01:36:18
And we're like, I mean.
01:36:19
Yeah, we're America.
01:36:20
Yeah, but whatever.
01:36:21
So anyway, so that's a fact.
01:36:24
There's nukes over there.
01:36:25
Yeah.
01:36:26
In the water.
01:36:27
Yeah.
01:36:28
Mark.
01:36:29
They might have found them.
01:36:30
Yeah.
01:36:31
I think the US is right there.
01:36:32
That's one of the 29.
01:36:33
We are.
01:36:34
Yeah.
01:36:35
And we got fucked up.
01:36:36
Yeah.
01:36:37
I can't go there.
01:36:38
That's a hard set.
01:36:39
Yeah.
01:36:40
The US has misplaced 29 nuclear weapons.
01:36:41
I believe it's 29.
01:36:42
That's it?
01:36:43
Yeah.
01:36:44
I think about all the other shit we lose.
01:36:46
I mean, there was one that blew up in Arkansas.
01:36:48
Like not a nuke.
01:36:49
Well, this is actually proof to show you how stable nuclear weapons are.
01:36:52
The warhead ended up like 700 yards outside the gate of the base.
01:36:55
When the missile itself, which was liquid state fuel leaked, and then just went off, and it literally just exploded in the ground, blew off the blast door, and then the warhead itself ended up outside the gate of the base.
01:37:06
Arkansas, 1974.
01:37:07
Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
01:37:09
Explain a lot about Arkansas.
01:37:10
Yeah.
01:37:11
Before we end up talking about the manhole cover.
01:37:14
Oh, God.
01:37:15
We are.
01:37:16
The fastest object known to man.
01:37:18
Dude, before we in that, my favorite part was homeboy tried to do a mathematical breakdown.
01:37:24
And then they promised like, no, not today you fucked up X, Y and Z.
01:37:29
And he's like, this is not a good account for rotational.
01:37:32
Like he's like, this is not a true story because if you do it, and then he just accounted for is like flying like actually a dome not spinning.
01:37:41
He did, he did the calculation if it was entering the Earth's atmosphere and not leaving it, which drastically changes it because atmosphere gets weaker as you leave, not stronger.
01:37:49
So it like completely inverted the equation.
01:37:51
So it was a very similar to the movie where I mean, no, in Dick's case.
01:37:56
Yeah.
01:37:57
Do that again.
01:37:58
Let me stand up.
01:37:59
I'll go.
01:38:00
He might kill me.
01:38:01
Silicon Valley.
01:38:02
My boy.
01:38:03
Yeah.
01:38:04
That's one of the best.
01:38:05
The dick destruction.
01:38:06
Yeah.
01:38:07
Oh, no, we're almost here.
01:38:08
But have you heard of the fastest manhole cover ever to exist?
01:38:11
No.
01:38:12
Tell me all about it.
01:38:13
I'm going to let that.
01:38:14
He tells the story way better than the night.
01:38:15
I'm starting to get this because now nobody cares about me.
01:38:17
I think.
01:38:18
Oh, I was just talking about it.
01:38:19
You're still the captain.
01:38:20
Absolutely.
01:38:21
You.
01:38:22
So, you know, we're testing our news.
01:38:24
I'm going to reset.
01:38:25
Go again.
01:38:26
Tell me we're trying to keep our manhole covered.
01:38:31
So basically, there's these scientists are doing experiments.
01:38:37
And they're doing, they're basically dropping nukes in the desert in Nevada.
01:38:41
And they're exploding in the atmosphere.
01:38:43
And the people near that area understandably were like, hey.
01:38:48
What if we didn't detonate nukes 60 miles from my fucking house?
01:38:53
You know, I'm kind of concerned for the health reasons.
01:38:56
And the government's like, don't worry.
01:38:57
We've done the research.
01:38:58
You're fine.
01:38:59
And they weren't.
01:39:00
They're called downwinders.
01:39:01
They got paid a lot of money by the government.
01:39:03
And a lot of them fucking died.
01:39:05
But regardless, the government's like, no, you're fine.
01:39:07
And they're like, I still don't trust you.
01:39:09
And the government's like, fine.
01:39:10
We'll quit detonating nukes in the atmosphere.
01:39:13
And they're like, and and in the desert.
01:39:15
And they're like, fine.
01:39:18
And in the desert.
01:39:18
And in the ocean.
01:39:19
Fine.
01:39:20
We'll quit detonating nukes in the ocean too.
01:39:22
So the government's like, okay, here's a plan.
01:39:25
We're not going to lie.
01:39:26
We're going to dig a big hole and detonate them underground.
01:39:29
What could possibly go wrong?
01:39:30
You know, what's better than having a firecracker go off in your hand.
01:39:34
Having it go off in your closed fist.
01:39:36
You know, nothing could possibly happen.
01:39:40
So they go, they dig a five, I believe this 500 feet deep hole.
01:39:45
And they took a nuclear warhead.
01:39:47
And they were, they wanted to test the safety mechanisms to make sure that they were going to function properly allegedly.
01:39:54
Handly.
01:39:55
I think there's a way to safety with that actually.
01:39:57
No, there's not.
01:39:58
You're not a new town for any of them today.
01:40:01
Now that's a fucking e-nines.
01:40:03
What the hell you know?
01:40:04
Not with the budget we got, homie.
01:40:06
So they grab its walk towards the blast.
01:40:10
Good.
01:40:11
So they bury this nuke.
01:40:13
And then they stick a 2,000 pound slab of concrete on top of it with a hole.
01:40:19
And they detonate it.
01:40:21
And fucking straight blue flames launch 800 feet into the fucking sky.
01:40:27
And they're like, huh, neat.
01:40:31
So tomorrow they're like, we should try it again.
01:40:34
This time we'll put a manhole back on.
01:40:37
Let's do it again.
01:40:38
This time we're drinking.
01:40:40
Literally, we left our hand open a little bit too much.
01:40:43
We got to make sure it's closed really tight next time.
01:40:46
So they go back the next day, same size nuke.
01:40:49
And they put a 2,000 pound slab of concrete on top of it again.
01:40:53
Then they get a 2,000 pound manhole cover that they bolt to the fucking bedrock to try to contain this blast to get the readings from it.
01:41:02
And then for some reason for science, they also got a high speed camera.
01:41:07
The best one they could get at the time pointed at it.
01:41:10
And the nuke went off again.
01:41:13
The safety mechanism did not work.
01:41:15
And what had happened was with a nuclear explosion, it gets so hot, so fast that it vaporized the concrete instantly.
01:41:24
And created super hot gas, which rapidly expands.
01:41:28
Essentially turned the planet into a fucking potato gun.
01:41:33
And proceeded to eat that manhole cover about 155,000 miles an hour.
01:41:40
That's the minimum speed.
01:41:42
Because they only captured the manhole cover in one frame of the high speed camera.
01:41:46
So they were able to do the math on like to not be in two frames.
01:41:51
It had to have been traveling.
01:41:52
I believe it was 155,000 miles an hour.
01:41:55
It's recreated.
01:41:58
There's somewhere out.
01:42:00
We've started an intergalactic war, because that manhole is still going.
01:42:04
It's still going.
01:42:05
It's still going somewhere out there in the cosmos.
01:42:07
Definitely left.
01:42:08
Absolutely.
01:42:09
That was gone.
01:42:10
There's a debate in science.
01:42:12
Well, this is the math you guys are talking about.
01:42:14
America put the first manmade object into outer space, being this manhole cover before the USSR did Sputnik.
01:42:20
And they argue over whether or not it burnt up in the atmosphere or not.
01:42:23
No, you did the math.
01:42:25
It was a second to break out of the atmosphere and moving at that speed.
01:42:30
And it's like, I don't know if it had enough time to burn up.
01:42:33
No, so it turned into like molten slug.
01:42:35
That's going to be going right towards Mars.
01:42:37
I mean, yeah, that's easily mock 40 or 80.
01:42:41
Because I mean, the carbon line, which is the notionally agreed upon, like, edge of space is 100 kilometers up.
01:42:46
But at one point, 50,000 miles an hour.
01:42:48
Are you looking at what was it?
01:42:50
That 986, what is Mark one?
01:42:53
Mark is 740 miles an hour.
01:42:56
Give or take, I think again.
01:42:59
Yes.
01:43:00
Exactly.
01:43:01
So you have something in the one once it hits the atmosphere.
01:43:05
Now you have lesser resistance.
01:43:06
That's why the individual that jumped in the highest skydice ever from the free fall was from space.
01:43:12
That dude hit up to it was like 900 miles an hour.
01:43:18
Or something which terminable velocity for a human once you've stayed like 20s or something.
01:43:23
Yeah.
01:43:24
Like homeboys falling like 800 miles an hour.
01:43:27
And he's just like, oh.
01:43:30
Like he goes into.
01:43:31
He's been in a spin.
01:43:32
Yeah.
01:43:33
And he catches himself.
01:43:34
And then his speed finally.
01:43:36
Yeah.
01:43:37
Yeah.
01:43:38
Yeah.
01:43:39
The same principle with your fake Russian hypersonic.
01:43:41
So I just wanted to point that out.
01:43:42
Because they don't have a powerful descent.
01:43:44
Now let's talk about hypersonic.
01:43:46
So what point do we launch this?
01:43:48
The hunk of molten steel into space.
01:43:50
So the aliens aren't like.
01:43:52
Slow down guys.
01:43:53
We're going to come visit real quick.
01:43:56
And they're just starting to get out of hand a little bit.
01:43:59
The amount of UFO sightings that are around nuclear test sites are stacked.
01:44:02
Watch your words.
01:44:03
There's a lot like paid on paid on a pirate was.
01:44:06
Hey aliens paid to come down and watch how stupid the US people are.
01:44:10
They're using those in their office here.
01:44:11
What the fuck?
01:44:12
Yeah, like back off there, those launch shit at you.
01:44:16
You know it.
01:44:17
You know it all.
01:44:18
You know aliens gave us that technology, right?
01:44:20
You know what I mean?
01:44:21
You know what I mean?
01:44:22
It's like a...
01:44:23
So you used your drug uncle.
01:44:24
Here.
01:44:25
Here's some fireworks.
01:44:26
Yeah.
01:44:27
What's the Greek sycephus with fire?
01:44:28
Oh yeah.
01:44:29
You know what I mean?
01:44:30
It's aliens.
01:44:31
Give.
01:44:32
Do it.
01:44:33
Give those monkeys nooks.
01:44:34
Just see what they do.
01:44:36
Holy shit.
01:44:37
Holy shit.
01:44:38
Oh.
01:44:39
Get out of the way.
01:44:40
Yeah.
01:44:41
Two thousand pound manhole cover.
01:44:43
Traveler.
01:44:44
That's probably as close as to light speed.
01:44:46
We've ever been.
01:44:47
Yes.
01:44:48
I think the only thing faster is one of the shuttles we sent out.
01:44:53
Like finally reached its max cruising speed.
01:44:56
And it is faster now, but that was like fairly recent.
01:44:59
No, Jesus.
01:45:00
It might be like Voyager or something.
01:45:02
Yeah, I think that's it.
01:45:03
Yeah.
01:45:04
Anyways, nuclear powered anti-air-to-air missiles.
01:45:06
I think you were trying to talk about.
01:45:08
So there.
01:45:09
Well, there's the nuclear powered one, which well that was a theory.
01:45:12
Yeah, the slam.
01:45:13
I made that.
01:45:14
I don't think we ever fully built a production model.
01:45:17
They have small nuclear blasts as the thrust.
01:45:20
Yep.
01:45:21
I have heard of those.
01:45:22
Which was.
01:45:23
I mean, that was actually the original like, hey, how do we get an atmosphere faster?
01:45:27
This is the way we'll explore space.
01:45:29
Oh, that's not the one I was thinking of.
01:45:30
Yeah.
01:45:31
Are you thinking of that one?
01:45:32
The slam missile is the one that's a nuclear propelled.
01:45:35
It basically goes up into the atmosphere and just does hot laps around the planet in perpetuity for like 50 fucking years.
01:45:42
And then if we ever needed to call it down, it would go down and just sweep whatever we needed.
01:45:47
Same principle as the Chinese DFCF.
01:45:48
Yeah.
01:45:49
They're a hypersonic glide vehicle.
01:45:50
That's they fired up.
01:45:51
It goes however long it needs to be.
01:45:52
It stays in orbit perpetually as long as it needs to.
01:45:55
And then because it's a hypersonic glide vehicle, it dives and then kind of flattens out at a lower trajectory, similar to a cruise missile profile.
01:46:03
And because it's moving so fast, like cruise missiles by and large are usually pretty slow, like 500 miles an hour, like about the speed of a regular like fighter aircraft.
01:46:11
But the DFCF hypersonic glide vehicle claims, never been detected by any American or NATO sensor, because they don't really test them very often, claims to be able to travel like nap of the earth or map of the earth,
01:46:24
whatever you call it, at over Mach 10.
01:46:27
So imagine a cruise missile profile, which is hiding on the far side of the planet.
01:46:30
Because if you think it's flat, your parents are related.
01:46:35
So that's why cruise missiles are so dangerous as they hide on the far side of the curvature of the earth.
01:46:39
Or they use mountains, which we call mass terrain, or buildings or whatever and they sneak up on you that way.
01:46:44
That's why cruise missiles are really, really dangerous to air defense systems.
01:46:47
Have you ever done anything on rapid dragon?
01:46:51
No, no.
01:46:52
But I know we've, we actually, there's a newer design.
01:46:54
You may want to do something.
01:46:55
Have you seen the revolver we made for hypersonics?
01:46:57
It's in the back of a C-17.
01:46:58
They built a revolver in the back of a C-17 that like a parachute drops, a hypersonic missile drops out, takes off, and then it just rotates another one into place and that's at the back of a C-17.
01:47:10
Fuck yeah.
01:47:11
It's America.
01:47:12
America right there.
01:47:13
We are so dangerous.
01:47:14
So, but that's like, who wants to fuck with us?
01:47:18
I don't know.
01:47:19
Right now, in like the air defense space, Guam is the most heavily air defended location on earth.
01:47:29
Like anywhere in the world, Guam is it, and I think it's because the US is worried that like China wants Guam.
01:47:34
So, like there's ages of shore there, there's Thad there, there's, um, there's in the risk of tipping over.
01:47:40
I have no idea.
01:47:41
But we did.
01:47:42
Yeah.
01:47:43
Got it.
01:47:44
I like it.
01:47:45
Yeah.
01:47:46
We do need, if you need to explain that joke, and actual, it was a congressman congressman.
01:47:53
It was a congressman, I think Maria was, but saying, very well educated.
01:48:01
And he, what was the question?
01:48:03
He asked about the Guam, the island.
01:48:04
I think it was because of US forces on Guam, if we staged too many there, it would tip the island over.
01:48:11
Yeah.
01:48:12
Islands are just floating, like, it's just like, it's not, it's not, I just like, there's like a city where they're forced our general,
01:48:24
like, is that, are you, where is that?
01:48:26
And cut your ass.
01:48:27
Yeah.
01:48:28
Yeah.
01:48:29
Yeah.
01:48:30
That's what you wrote it for.
01:48:31
Yes.
01:48:32
Pull that up because it is literally like forced our general, like, it was like a Senate hearing or something.
01:48:38
My fear is that the whole island will, uh, become so overly populated that it will tip over,
01:48:49
uh, and, uh, and kept size.
01:48:52
You're fucking with me, right?
01:48:53
This is a retarded question.
01:48:55
No, congressman.
01:48:56
There is no possibility that the island doesn't, I'm sorry, I'm like, it's an ice cube.
01:49:04
No, it's a cube foot, but I, I, politicians never cease to, but they also, uh, this is something I've found kind of interesting.
01:49:13
So they have the ages ashore there and ages, um, is hands down.
01:49:18
It's sky net.
01:49:19
It is the best air defense system in the world.
01:49:20
And I say that.
01:49:21
No, I'm a patriot guy.
01:49:22
I mean, ages, it's, it's a bad bitch.
01:49:24
Like, there's a reason the hooties aren't defeating it right now.
01:49:26
It's in the Red Sea and it's just, it's stop it, stop it, but to fucking keep your missiles down.
01:49:31
Like, they're just playing with you at this point.
01:49:32
Um, but they took a Mark 41 VLS, the vertical launch system that sits on the ages, uh, or one of my favorite vertical launches, yeah, it's, it's all of these cells that have the missiles in them.
01:49:44
Okay.
01:49:45
And quite sophisticated.
01:49:46
It's the back of the toilet.
01:49:47
And I'm like, I hate Ford's, Ford assist, Jesus, you know, they, they took one.
01:49:57
Go ahead.
01:49:58
And I was going to say I paid money to give him a vampire system, vampire, that I'd be all back when I get like level four cancer and it's like, it's gone.
01:50:06
I'm working to load me up.
01:50:07
I'm working everything.
01:50:08
I just feel like we could probably cure cancer.
01:50:11
We just went to the DOD and asked him to, okay, here's the deal.
01:50:14
I need you to make really tiny cruise missiles that'll attack cells.
01:50:18
They were getting jacked into people.
01:50:20
That's what I'm talking about.
01:50:22
Damn.
01:50:23
That's not fire.
01:50:24
What the fuck?
01:50:25
No, that's what the DOD comes back.
01:50:26
Are the cells brown?
01:50:27
How much oil do the cells have?
01:50:28
That's not fire.
01:50:29
What the fuck?
01:50:30
No, that's what the DOD comes back.
01:50:31
Are the cells brown?
01:50:32
How much oil do the cells have?
01:50:46
That's over.
01:50:48
That's over.
01:50:49
It comes out burnt.
01:50:50
Oh, man.
01:50:51
I'm sorry.
01:50:52
I'm going to get a favorite vertical system.
01:50:53
So, the Mark 41 VLS, which they have standard missile 2's, 3's, and 6's in, there's no logic to the naming convention because 3's reach further than 6's, which reach further than 2's.
01:51:03
It's fucking weird.
01:51:04
But they put standard missile 3's in there, and they were able to recently annihilate quite literally and effectively a simulated mid-range ballistic missile.
01:51:17
And they did this on purpose because Russia fired that mid-range ballistic missile that hit Keeve and Russia's like, where the best ever.
01:51:23
So, the US was like, cool, we're going to show you that it's not, and they fired one of those at Guam, and Aegis smoked it 200 miles away from Guam, because Aegis is a bad bitch.
01:51:35
By the way, Google says Aegis is maximum range is like 173 miles.
01:51:39
So, I guess that's going to get updated on Google here soon.
01:51:41
Yeah, lucky.
01:51:42
Yeah, lucky shot.
01:51:43
What they did also is they took the VLS and normally they just have a sitting upright, which is how it is on the ships, and they tilted it, which doesn't seem like a big deal until you realize that tilt can probably give it an extra 50 or 60 miles of range,
01:51:59
because instead of going up and over, now it's just going over in that direction, which saves a lot of fuel.
01:52:05
So we just be doing like, that's what Uncle Sam be doing all the time.
01:52:09
That's a dude is more terrifying.
01:52:11
How do you feel about like, how you see warfare, now where it is drones?
01:52:15
And that is where you, that is where Keece D is coming from, is just that sound.
01:52:19
Like, I watch that shit on all the different feeds, like conflict, observer and all this, I'm like, that'll be scared, like just following around, like just stalking you, like I see you.
01:52:31
There's nothing I can fucking do about you, and there's like some 14 year old Russian that grew up playing video games, it's like, ah, fuck you, America, I'm just gonna murder you.
01:52:40
With no, there's no value of life, and he's like, oh wow, this is how video games work, I'm gonna do it.
01:52:45
And he's like, it is complete disconnect, because you're not pulling a trigger, you're not doing anything.
01:52:49
You have a screen set, which is exactly what he's been doing since he was 5 playing video games.
01:52:54
Yeah.
01:52:55
And there's no motion, there's like, ah, a screen to screen whether it's a video game player or a person, to him, it doesn't matter, and then just thermal ones are like, the scary, the scary part with that is in theory,
01:53:07
like if you were actually gonna like, do drone warfare like that on a industrial scale, like if America launched that program, you could literally or anybody.
01:53:16
Yeah.
01:53:17
And you could literally just like, to eliminate that entirely, it's, um, you remember when they did a death by firing squad in Ohio, like a couple years back, it was like the last death by firing squad,
01:53:28
the dude requested it, but the way they did it was they had five shooters with high power rifles, they were all gonna shoot center mass, one of them had a blank, and they didn't know who it was,
01:53:39
that way all five shooters could tell themselves they shot the blank.
01:53:43
Yeah, it was like when you would originally when two people pulled the electric chair, it was, hey, one doesn't do it that way, no one suffers the constant, it's like, ah, that weighs on me.
01:53:53
It is, oh, one of a skill that I don't know who did.
01:53:56
You could literally have one drone pilot out of the 50 playing armor three, and everybody gets to tell themselves, I'm playing the video game.
01:54:04
These aren't real people.
01:54:05
Yeah.
01:54:06
Exactly.
01:54:07
Yeah.
01:54:08
Same fucking idea.
01:54:09
If you don't know an injury's game, it is the entire spoiler alert, it's like 30 years reading out at this point.
01:54:17
It is children's soldiers are like, they're, they're going into this military school at the age of five, they're geniuses, and by the age of 12, they're disconnected from everything,
01:54:28
they're working with their unit, and they're playing war games, but they're also playing this simulation with ships that they get a maneuver, a maneuver around and fight the enemy in this video game,
01:54:40
and they do this for years until the finals, like, Ender's looking around.
01:54:45
He has like all his team, the dragon team around him, basically, he feels like he's on the final level.
01:54:51
Yeah.
01:54:52
He's literally going into this.
01:54:53
This is the final level.
01:54:54
All the adults in general are watching.
01:54:56
I got to pass this fucking test, and it is, okay, we're going to do this.
01:55:00
Oh, fuck.
01:55:01
This is the only kid that can do this again.
01:55:03
He's 12 years old.
01:55:04
And finally, he's like, oh, I'll sacrifice all these by pinning one ship in the middle that has this device that will kill everything.
01:55:12
All the other ships will protect it, and it'll hit the planet, and then this D device will destroy everything around.
01:55:19
It consumes all life, and then they hit it and then everything dies.
01:55:24
And then the adults are freaking out.
01:55:27
And the kids are like, ah, we won.
01:55:30
Takes a moment.
01:55:31
Like the kids are like, what the fuck's it going on?
01:55:33
The adults are crying, they're weeping, they're giving the kids hugs.
01:55:36
And then he finds out it's like, hey, those were actually soldiers that you were playing.
01:55:41
Those were soldiers.
01:55:42
Five years old.
01:55:43
Yeah.
01:55:44
Yeah.
01:55:45
So that is the moment.
01:55:46
It was like you killed all the aliens, but you sacrificed all those people without knowing it, because you were thought it was a video game at that moment.
01:55:52
And that is like, and it hits Ender, and then they have like multiple stories that roll out from that.
01:55:57
It is.
01:55:58
Great book.
01:55:59
Dude, son.
01:56:00
One of the best likes I've ever read.
01:56:01
Yeah.
01:56:02
It's like the trauma he goes through, and he doesn't know it like he's just a tool for the government.
01:56:07
And they don't tell him any of the trauma he does.
01:56:10
And then finally at the end of the book, he's like, uh, this sucks.
01:56:15
I just, like, he exterminated an entire other race.
01:56:18
Yeah.
01:56:19
Yeah.
01:56:20
Yeah.
01:56:21
Yeah.
01:56:22
Yeah.
01:56:23
Yeah.
01:56:24
Yeah.
01:56:25
Yeah.
01:56:26
Yeah.
01:56:27
Yeah.
01:56:28
Yeah.
01:56:28
Yeah.
01:56:29
Yeah.
01:56:30
Yeah.
01:56:31
And you're like, uh, fuck.
01:56:32
It wasn't a huge fan, but yeah, the series is pretty good.
01:56:34
Hmm.
01:56:35
Good book.
01:56:36
If you have it, like, it's a good, and it's like a high school book.
01:56:40
It hits fucking hell.
01:56:41
But it's horrible.
01:56:42
Like, don't watch that movie.
01:56:43
The movie's ass.
01:56:44
Yeah.
01:56:45
Oh, yeah.
01:56:46
It's about Guam.
01:56:47
Oh.
01:56:48
Can we sit it over?
01:56:49
Yes.
01:56:50
Guam is the funniest way America has ever taken over a country ever.
01:56:55
So I did a video on it.
01:56:56
I know you haven't seen it.
01:56:59
I'll recap it if you've already seen the video.
01:57:02
Sorry.
01:57:03
You know how this is going to be worse because I'm drunk this time.
01:57:05
And I haven't read it in six months.
01:57:08
So basically, Japan took over Guam from America during World War 2.
01:57:12
America goes.
01:57:13
Sorry.
01:57:14
No way before that.
01:57:15
Sorry.
01:57:16
Spanish American War.
01:57:17
Spain is in control of Guam.
01:57:18
America enters the Spanish American War.
01:57:19
They send out a bunch of ships to go capture Guam from the Spanish because we're a war with them.
01:57:25
And we want to capture all the territory like the Philippines.
01:57:27
And they sent out this massive fleet.
01:57:28
They're supposed to go back to the Philippines.
01:57:30
Yeah.
01:57:31
Put a kite on that bitch.
01:57:32
We're going to sail across seven.
01:57:33
So you can go fuck people up, right?
01:57:36
So this group gets a special mission.
01:57:39
They're only supposed to open this letter after they get out to see they're like, Hey, you're making a detour.
01:57:43
You got to go take out capture Guam and then head to the Philippines and capture it.
01:57:48
So they go out.
01:57:49
They get to Guam.
01:57:50
There's this massive fort.
01:57:51
They're supposed to be this entire Spanish Armada that these guys got to go fight.
01:57:54
Everybody's pumped.
01:57:56
And they get there.
01:57:57
They're foggy.
01:57:58
They can't see shit.
01:57:59
And they're like, they see a ship off in the distance in this fog and they're getting closer.
01:58:03
They're getting closer.
01:58:04
It's a Japanese ship and we're totally friendly with them at the time for like, what the fuck?
01:58:08
So you get closer and there's this massive fort that's supposed to have all these cannons.
01:58:13
So they just start opening fire on this fort.
01:58:16
The fort's not returning fire.
01:58:19
The fuck.
01:58:20
So they just like kind of sail right into the harbor and the captain's like, drop anchor, I guess.
01:58:26
Drop anchor and they're just chilling.
01:58:28
They're like getting boarding parties ready for their wailing boats to sail out to the, and they see what they assume are troops forming up on the beach and they're like, okay, we're going to fight them on land,
01:58:39
get ready boys.
01:58:41
And then these guys hop in canoes and start patting their ass out to the boat and they're like, what the fuck is going on?
01:58:47
And they get out and it's a wailing boat that comes out to the ship that has all of their things in government on it except for the governor.
01:58:56
And they're like, hey, what are you guys doing?
01:58:59
And they're like, uh, we're, we're at war and capturing your island.
01:59:05
And they're like, what?
01:59:06
Apparently Spain just fucking didn't tell them that we were at war.
01:59:10
And they had no clue.
01:59:12
And they're like, they originally came out there to apologize because they thought when they opened up fire on that fort, they thought that they were doing like the fire the cannons as a salute for entering their port,
01:59:24
and they're like, they're sorry for that.
01:59:28
They're like, sorry.
01:59:29
We couldn't return your salute.
01:59:31
We don't have any cannons or gunpowder functioning right now.
01:59:35
And they're like, oh, but you're like the whole government and they're like, yeah, pretty much except for the governor.
01:59:40
They're cool.
01:59:41
You're our prisoners now.
01:59:43
They helped the prisoners.
01:59:44
They sent like one guy back with a letter to the governor like, hey, we're running this bitch now.
01:59:50
She's mine.
01:59:51
Yeah.
01:59:52
And the governor is like forced to surrender.
01:59:54
So then the captain's sitting there like, what the fuck do I do?
01:59:57
I captured this in minutes.
02:00:00
A country.
02:00:01
Yeah.
02:00:02
A country.
02:00:03
And there was like a couple of Spanish soldiers.
02:00:06
They're like 20 Spanish soldiers.
02:00:07
They all surrender.
02:00:08
They take them.
02:00:09
There's like a local militia.
02:00:10
And the captain's like, the National Guard can go home.
02:00:13
I don't give a shit.
02:00:14
Go home.
02:00:15
And then one of the Spanish soldiers is like, actually, I'm from Guam and I'm part of the militia.
02:00:20
You're like, fuck it.
02:00:21
You can go home too.
02:00:22
That guy's lying.
02:00:23
He just kicked out the entire militia and he, so he bounces.
02:00:27
He goes home.
02:00:28
No one knows.
02:00:29
And there's this one, another boat comes up.
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And it's like the local merchant tycoon that runs like all the business on the island.
02:00:38
And he speaks perfect English.
02:00:40
They're like, right, you're white.
02:00:42
What the fuck's the deal?
02:00:43
What?
02:00:44
Explain yourself.
02:00:45
He's like, oh, I'm an elevator operator from Chicago.
02:00:47
And they're like, what?
02:00:48
He's like, yeah, I married some Guam chick and we moved out here.
02:00:52
And now I just kind of like run the business side of the island.
02:00:56
And the captain's like, what the fuck do we do?
02:00:58
And he's like, you know what?
02:01:01
And like, shit's getting rowdy.
02:01:02
Like the sailors were expecting a fight.
02:01:04
They didn't get a fight.
02:01:05
Now they're like, they're buying monkeys from the locals and have monkeys on the boats and shit.
02:01:11
Buying bananas and all kinds of crazy shit going on.
02:01:14
I got sailors.
02:01:15
I got to get to the Philippines to go capture that.
02:01:17
And he's like, fuck it, American dude.
02:01:20
Congratulations.
02:01:21
You're the president now.
02:01:22
I got to go.
02:01:23
And he just dips and leaves.
02:01:27
And just like the one English dude is apparently running the country now.
02:01:32
And we just don't show back up for like six months and we show up.
02:01:39
We just showed up to get coal because they were coal burning ships at this point in time.
02:01:44
And the captain that's just there to get coal and refuel shows up.
02:01:49
And there's like a civil war about to break out between the faction that's now being run by this one ex-American dude who thinks he's in charge.
02:01:59
And the rest of the people from Guam and they're like about to have this huge fight.
02:02:03
So he comes and is like, no, no.
02:02:06
The Americans in charge.
02:02:07
Take all their guns.
02:02:08
Alright, we're going to leave again.
02:02:09
And just for another six months, it was like a year and a half before they sent out and had like a military commander in charge of this island.
02:02:20
So yeah, that's how we got Guam.
02:02:22
That explains a lot about Guam.
02:02:24
But it's still not going to tip over, right?
02:02:28
We're safe now.
02:02:29
Yeah, we took all the monkeys for the counterweight.
02:02:31
We took all the monkeys for the counterweight.
02:02:32
We have a monkey ballast.
02:02:33
Holy shit.
02:02:34
I don't know.
02:02:35
Close this episode out.
02:02:36
It's been two hours, yeah, that was, yeah, you're more than two hours.
02:02:46
Holy shit.
02:02:47
Dude, that closes it.
02:02:48
You beautiful zone, bitch.
02:02:49
I'm Cody.
02:02:50
Today.
02:02:51
You're Cody.
02:02:52
I want to say you're doing an operator.
02:02:53
I'm super ugly Cody.
02:02:54
Yeah.
02:02:55
Yeah.
02:02:56
Thank you so much for watching the unsubscribe podcast.
02:02:58
I have been joined here today by my co-host, Mr.
02:03:01
Eli Double Tap, our new friend, Terry, who is, in fact, the captain.
02:03:05
My dear friend Ethan, Mr.
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Ivisual, I'm Crosser, and I am Nick, the fat electrician.
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Thank you for watching unsubscribe.
02:03:11
Quack bangout.
02:03:12
Terry, where do we find you, beautiful zone, bitch?
02:03:15
The only thing, and I shouldn't do it anymore, Instagram, and they've got me so locked.
02:03:19
So here's a challenge for your followers.
02:03:22
Go break fucking Instagram and follow me, because I am in the shit hole.
02:03:26
Lockdown.
02:03:27
Nobody can find me.
02:03:28
All this stuff.
02:03:29
So Terry and I, who you follow me?
02:03:30
Break Instagram?
02:03:31
Fuck made up.
02:03:32
We'll put it in that.
02:03:33
That's the only question.
02:03:34
Yeah, I was like, I'm going to need that.
02:03:35
Thank you.
02:03:36
I mean, Philly Thos, and just having a full.
02:03:39
Perfect.
02:03:40
Thank you so much.
02:03:41
Yeah, truly thank you.
02:03:42
Yeah, I was fucking like, very rarely are we just so, again, I was like, that was dialed in.
02:03:49
I was like, usually this place is real rimed, just at all three of us just, he is the captain of the fucking shit.
02:03:54
Fuck up in there.
02:03:55
It's so good.
02:03:56
Thank you so much.
02:03:57
No, I hope it was good as well.
02:03:58
I was trying not to, try not to say anything too crazy, that's going to give me shit talking, but whatever.
02:04:01
I was just killed.
02:04:02
I can borrow it, because yeah, thank you better.
02:04:09
Love you guys.
02:04:12
Bye.
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